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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-12-2017 07:16 AM)Smith Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:50 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I think the Pierre hire is a step in the right direction, but the concerns about a one year stint and placing him in a position where he cannot directly recruit players (his speciality) are valid. It would be better if he replaced Saul.

What make you think its a one-year stint? From what I read him and Tubby are friends more than boss and employee. I would think that they talked and discussed what they wanted and agree or he wouldn't have taken the job.

We only need to pay the portion of his $410K contract with NC St related to his new Memphis job. NC St picks up the rest. Next year he may want to make more money than we can offer for a DPP position and he may leave for a well paid AC position. We could be, in effect, renting him for a year in a position where his expertize (recruiting players) is limited.
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Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
Can't we just welcome the guy to the job, let him do it & live in the now on this forum without all the 'sky is falling' what if crap, for once? He accepted the job, Tubby wanted him, he is qualified & he accepted the job offered.........welcome Butch Pierre!
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(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.

Not going to even entertain this crap you do. Have fun talking to yourself
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.

Saul was up for a job as head coach of a Div 2 school after Orlando got fired from Minnesota and didn't get the job. So Orlando gave him a job at texas tech. Now he is continuing to protect him at Memphis.

What other excuse can you give for putting a recruiter in an administrative non recruiting position while keeping on a guy who lost a recruiting battle withe a Div 2 Bible College. NO OTHER coach in the US would have Saul in his position with a better coach on the staff.
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-11-2017 10:15 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 09:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 09:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:38 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Does your beeper go off when I post or something?

Is this a metaphor? Cause nobody has beepers anymore.

July 22, scene of the "crime"

i got a half pan of brownies says you too skeered to show.

Is this sarcasm cause I like brownies?

naw, just a normal run of the mill dog whistle passive aggressive invitation to mammy for the 2nd Annual Summer Social event.

think it would make a difference if i told him GeorgiaTiger was hosting the event and world famous brownies were being flown in from Cali?
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You guys comments are as pathetic as the job you perceive Tubby doing.
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-12-2017 08:40 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 10:15 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 09:30 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 09:05 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:38 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Does your beeper go off when I post or something?

Is this a metaphor? Cause nobody has beepers anymore.

July 22, scene of the "crime"

i got a half pan of brownies says you too skeered to show.

Is this sarcasm cause I like brownies?

naw, just a normal run of the mill dog whistle passive aggressive invitation to mammy for the 2nd Annual Summer Social event.

think it would make a difference if i told him GeorgiaTiger was hosting the event and world famous brownies were being flown in from Cali?

Yes, this makes a difference. That and his 7:00 curfew.
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RE: Memphis Tigers announce addition of Butch Pierre
(07-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.

Here we go again! It's all Saul's fault... blah, blah
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(07-12-2017 05:54 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.

Here we go again! It's all Saul's fault... blah, blah

Actually, I think he is saying Tubby and whomever hired Tubby are to blame.
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(07-12-2017 06:04 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:54 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:41 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Once again certain individuals play ignorant to the fact that if we could of hired him like that as an assistant LSU would of done the same thing or another P5 program.

We are blessed with resources to make Tubby among the highest paid coaches in all college basketball and to build a state-of-the-art faculty. We might have the capacity to hire a high caliber, proven recruiter, but it is a moot point because Tubby prefers to promote the interest of his son over the interest of our program.

Here we go again! It's all Saul's fault... blah, blah

Actually, I think he is saying Tubby and whomever hired Tubby are to blame.

cut the UofM a 15 million dollar check to buy out Tubby and y'all can hire whomever you like...til then, y'all will just have to find a way to deal with it.
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Yeah, the way to deal with it is the same as people have been. That is why Fed Ex Forum is half empty and so many in the city are apathetic. But you go ahead with your monologue on dealing with it.
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Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure
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(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

It's the "Pastner effect"
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(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

Overall expectations have changed after Cal
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(07-12-2017 08:50 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

Overall expectations have changed after Cal

#spoiled
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(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

The other day I was listening to a radio program interviewing one of the ESPN sportscenter reporters. He was saying that Memphis had inflated expectations. John Martin said, in 10 years I expect to be in the NCAA most of the time and a Sweet 16 every 4 years. The reporter said he agreed and would take it a step forward and expect Memphis to make it to an Elite 8 every 4-5 years. Now, from your experience, how many people do you know expect more than that? Then, be sure and tell us all how long it has been since the last time we have been to a Sweet 16 and explain to us all how our expectations our too much.
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(07-12-2017 09:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:50 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

Overall expectations have changed after Cal

#spoiled

There's a lot of truth in that.
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(07-12-2017 07:30 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Never seen so much angst after just 1 year of a coaches tenure

I understand that Pastner underachieved with all of the talent he had, understand that he had his shortcomings, but Pastner improved the first 4 years and in year 5 had a team that halfway through the season could make it to the Sweet 16, and we were ranked, and we were beating ranked teams. No matter how inadequate people thought Pastner was, he made the tournament 4 years in a row and there was legitimate hope that he could make a Sweet 16.

Last year Tubby could have added a David Pellom and Calvin Godfrey and there would have been hope. This year he could have recruited at a high level and retained the roster and there would have been hope.

We are returning 2 players and 17 points per game, Tubby doesn't have a top 100 recruit on the roster and doesn't seem to be in on any for this class.

What hope is there? Next to none. I could have predicted this before Tubby was hired based on his record the last 10 years. Zero years was enough and one year is more than enough reason to not have hope. Not much hope anyway.
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