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RE: If you could create your dream conference for football
I chose Pitt's 15 most played opponents all-time who are still in FBS. The only change was I switched Nebraska for Cincinnati because Nebraska is out of place and there's not a big rivalry there. I might change one or two teams but overall it actually works pretty well for who I'd want in Pitt's conference.

Army
Boston College
Cincinnati
Duke
Louisville
Miami
Navy
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

As for basketball, my preference would be:
Boston College
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Duquesne
George Washington
Georgetown
Louisville
Marquette
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
St. John's
Syracuse
Temple
Villanova
West Virginia
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RE: If you could create your dream conference for football
(07-12-2017 09:19 AM)rknj8993 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:01 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I could make the Power four look into a NFL like League with each four conferences have schools from all the states representative.

PAC 12
Big 10
ACC
SEC

Alabama
Auburn
Troy/South Alabama
North Alabama

UAB is not listed because they are too close to Alabama, and the Tide will have a fit if they get picked. Samford, Alabama A&M and Alabama State do have their issues. Jacksonville State is close to Auburn which could be a problem.
South Alabama and North Alabama would be safe bets because they are not close to the two big schools.

Arkansas
Arkansas State
Arkansas Tech
UCA

Arizona
Arizona State
Northern Arizona
Arizona Western

California
Stanford
UCLA
USC
San Diego State
Fresno State
Sacramento State
Cal-Davis
Cal. Poly
Azusa Pacific

California could be the state that could fill in for states that do not have more than 1 or 2 schools with football on the west coast.

Colorado
Colorado State
Air Force
Colorado Mesa
Colorado State-Pueblo
Northern Colorado
Colorado Mines

Colorado could do the same.

UConn.
Central Connecticut State
New Haven/Coast Guard (brings them back into the President's Cup)/Southern Conn. State
Sacred Heart

Delaware
Delaware State

Florida
Florida State
Miami
UCF
USF
North Florida
West Florida
Bethune-Cookman
Florida Tech

Georgia
Georgia Tech
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Kennesaw State
Valdosta State

Hawaii

Idaho
Idaho State
Boise State


Illinois
Illinois State
Northwestern
Northern Illinois

Indiana
Indiana State
Purdue
Notre Dame
Indianapolis

Iowa
Iowa State
Northern Iowa

Kansas
Kansas State
Wichita State
Washburn

Kentucky
Louisville
Eastern Kentucky
Bellarmine

LSU
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Tulane
McNeese State

Maine

Maryland
Towson
Navy

Boston College
UMass.
Holy Cross
MIT

Michigan
Michigan State
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Wayne State
Davenport

Minnesota
Minnesota State-Mankato
St. Cloud State
Minnesota-Duluth

Ole Miss.
Miss. State
Southern Miss.
Jackson State

Missouri
Missouri State
SE Missouri State
Lindenwood

Montana
Montana State-Billings
Montana State
Montana Western

Nebraska

Nevada
UNLV

New Hampshire

Rutgers
Rowan
Monmouth

New Mexico
New Mexico State
New Mexico Highlands
Eastern New Mexico (Eastern New Mexico fans do flock to West Texas A&M to have big sell out games. It could be done the same for them to flock to UTEP, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and New Mexico Highlands. They might flock to Arizona and Texas schools as well.)

Fordham
Syracuse
Buffalo
Albany
Stony Brook
Cortland State

North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest
East Carolina
Appalachian State
UNC-Pembroke
Charlotte
Fayetteville State

North Dakota
North Dakota State
Mary

Ohio
Ohio State
Akron
Toledo
Bowling Green
Dayton
Cincinnati
Youngstown State

Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Tulsa
Central Oklahoma

Oregon
Oregon State
Portland State
Western Oregon

Penn. State
Pittsburgh
Temple
Villanova
West Chester
Kutztown

URI

South Carolina
Clemson
Charleston Southern
Coastal Carolina

South Dakota
South Dakota State
Augustana or Sioux Falls
Black Hills State

Tennessee State
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Middle Tennessee State
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State

Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Baylor
Texas Tech
Houston
Rice
SMU
Lamar
Tarleton State
Midwestern State
Abilene Christian
Angelo State
Sam Houston State
UTRGV
UTPB
West Texas A&M

Utah
Utah State
BYU
Dixie State

Castleton

Virginia
Virginia Tech
VCU
Richmond
Old Dominion
James Madison

Washington State
Washington
Eastern Washington
Central Washington
Western Washington

West Virginia
Marshall
Shepherd
Charleston

Wisconsin
Milwaukee
La Crosse
Eau Claire

Big 10 will be AAU Conference.
ACC could be all privates. That means Northwestern and Purdue over there.
PAC 12 could be Schools like Boise State, Washington State and Oregon State.
SEC could be schools like Oklahoma, Kansas State and some others.




Big 10 could look like this.
Big 10 West:
Washington
Oregon
UCLA
Cal-Davis
Arizona
Utah
Colorado

Big 10 Central:
Nebraska
Iowa
Kansas
Texas
Tulane
Missouri
Oklahoma

Big 10 North:
Wisconsin
Michigan
Illinois
Indiana
Ohio State
Kentucky
Minnesota

Big 10 southEast:
LSU
Ole. Miss.
Alabama
Florida
Georgia Tech
Vanderbilt
Clemson

Big 10 Northeast:
North Carolina
Virginia
Penn. State
Maryland
Rutgers
MIT
Buffalo

We could figure out how to do this in real time. Break it down some more.

ACC would look like this.
Stanford
BYU
TCU
SMU
Rice
Tulsa
Tulane
Notre Dame
Wake Forest
Duke
Miami
Villanova
Northwestern
Purdue
Lindenwood
Bellarmine
Holy Cross
Navy
Army
Air Force
Dayton
Syracuse
Davenport
New Haven
Azusa Pacific
Georgetown

I will never understand why you want every university or college that has ever existed to be DI/FBS. Lindenwood? Davenport? Azusa Pacific? UNC Pembroke? Wisconsin-Eau Claire? I mean, why?

Speaking solely for UNCP, you won't find a person in North Carolina that considers them to be a premier institution in the state or region. There has even been conversation before about closing it down. Why would you bring an underwhelming school of 6,000 students up if they are struggling in DII?


Lindenwood is a private school in the St. Louis tv market. They do bring something to the table.
Azusa Pacific is in the Los Angeles tv market in the valley. They would bring something to the table.
Davenport is a private school in Michigan, and they are spending money like a drunken sailor.
UNC-Pembroke is the highest level school that was created for the Pembroke Native American tribe in the state. It would be like closing them down like you try to close down any of the HBCU schools.

The schools I mainly listed are in large cities that could do well in tv ratings. A lot of them happened to be in D2. We have a lot of P5 and G5 schools located in smaller rural cities like Washington State. You need something to offset those schools.
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RE: If you could create your dream conference for football
    State of Florida
  • UCF
  • USF
  • Florida
  • Florida State
  • Miami
    State of North Carolina + 1
  • ECU
  • Duke
  • UNC
  • NC State
  • VT
    State of Georgia / South Carolina
  • Georgia
  • Georgia Tech
  • Georgia Southern
  • SCAR
  • Clemson
    Texas...ish
  • Memphis
  • Houston
  • Texas
  • aTm
  • LSU

4 games in pod, 2 games each for the other pods = 10 conference games
Two best conference records meet in CCG, tiebreakers decided by CFP rank.
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RE: If you could create your dream conference for football
Florida Georgia Line Conference

Florida
Florida State
UCF
USF
Miami
North Florida/West Florida/Florida Tech

Georgia
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Georgia Tech
Kennesaw State
Valdosta State
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BC
UConn
Rutgers
Syracuse
temple
Pitt
wVU
Cincy
louisville
Virginia Tech
miami
USF
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CliftonAve. All old Big East schools. Like.
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Dream Super-Mega-Ultra Big East Conference - 12 full-members, 8 non-football members (C7 + ND). Symmetry is attained from the nine Catholic schools (w/ BC), football, basketball and Northeast presence. Basketball Tournament is still held at MSG. Football Championship would be at MetLife Stadium in New York and/or Lincoln Financial in Philadelphia.

Boston College
Cincinnati
Connecticut
DePaul
Georgetown
Louisville
Marquette
Memphis
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Providence
Rutgers
Seton Hall
St. Johns
Syracuse
Temple
Villanova
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

East Division
Boston College
UConn
Rutgers
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
West Virginia


West Division
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Penn State
Pittsburgh
Temple
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Yes, DavidST, Lindenwood is a private school in the Saint Louis TV market. As are Washington University in Saint Louis, Webster, Fontbonne, The Saint Louis School of Pharmacy and several other. Also, there are public school UMSL and Harris-Stowe. All of them bring exactly the same thing to the table, an appetite.

UMSL basketball get very rare mentions on the local sports shows that are after the Saturday and Sunday late TV news. I have never heard any of the others mentioned.

It was years after moving here, and after learning of the other schools, that I found out about Lindenwood. And that was only when they rented some space in an office building near me and put their name on it.

Also, in you Colorado conglomeration, why didn't you include Metro State, UCCS, Adams State, Western State and Fort Lewis? We'll make Metro and USSC add football and while we're at it we will make UC-Denver add an athletic department.
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RE: If you could create your dream conference for football
(07-12-2017 09:17 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  I chose Pitt's 15 most played opponents all-time who are still in FBS. The only change was I switched Nebraska for Cincinnati because Nebraska is out of place and there's not a big rivalry there. I might change one or two teams but overall it actually works pretty well for who I'd want in Pitt's conference.

Army
Boston College
Cincinnati
Duke
Louisville
Miami
Navy
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
Virginia Tech
West Virginia

As for basketball, my preference would be:
Boston College
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Duquesne
George Washington
Georgetown
Louisville
Marquette
Notre Dame
Penn State
Pitt
St. John's
Syracuse
Temple
Villanova
West Virginia

I know a lot of Pitt fans don't feel this way, but the UC v Pitt conference series garnered a lot of interest for UC fans and I think a lot of casual fans as well. Given the geographic proximity of the two schools and the fact that professional sports teams are rivals, there was in a sense a build up of this is a game that has some meaning. Moreover, the schools often were recruiting some of the same kids.

I know we will likely never be in a conference with Pitt again, and I know we have a couple games scheduled for fball 8-10 years down the line, but I am hoping we play more often in both football and basketball.
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(07-13-2017 08:46 AM)lew240z Wrote:  Yes, DavidST, Lindenwood is a private school in the Saint Louis TV market. As are Washington University in Saint Louis, Webster, Fontbonne, The Saint Louis School of Pharmacy and several other. Also, there are public school UMSL and Harris-Stowe. All of them bring exactly the same thing to the table, an appetite.

UMSL basketball get very rare mentions on the local sports shows that are after the Saturday and Sunday late TV news. I have never heard any of the others mentioned.

It was years after moving here, and after learning of the other schools, that I found out about Lindenwood. And that was only when they rented some space in an office building near me and put their name on it.

Also, in you Colorado conglomeration, why didn't you include Metro State, UCCS, Adams State, Western State and Fort Lewis? We'll make Metro and USSC add football and while we're at it we will make UC-Denver add an athletic department.

First, realize that you are arguing with a crazy man... My dad always told me not to argue with two types of people- drunks and crazy people.

Second, as an alumnus of Metro State, they are forbidden by their Charter from ever sponsoring varsity football. They had a club once upon a time, but they cannot add FB right now. Just sayin'.

Maybe DU though? (I kid... I kid...)
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