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RE: CAA tourney format changing, new TV deal
I would call this a "schedule" change, not a "format" change. If some teams were not invited to the tournament or some teams were given double byes, those would be format changes. I don't want a format change. I was just giving examples of what a format change would be. The 2000 World Series started on a Saturday. The World Series now starts on a Wednesday, but it wasn't a format change.

(07-12-2017 12:21 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Agreed.

I'm fine with the CAA Tournament moving every 3 years or so, to appease different parts of the conference. Scrapping the system of neutral court makes no sense.
I agree.

(07-12-2017 02:40 PM)dan10 Wrote:  That is why our conference should have semi finals on Saturday and the finals on Sunday. Both should be at the same neutral location. Thursday and Friday games can be played at the higher seeds home courts. Cuts travel costs for teams and fans, potentially, but still keep the important part of the tournament at a neutral place on the weekend when you will have the best ability to travel
You can't expect teams to play three consecutive days at three places. Delaware was the 9 seed in 2016-2017. They beat 8 seed Hofstra and lost to 1 seed UNCW. Let's say those games were at Hofstra on Thursday and at UNCW on Friday. Let's say Delaware won both games. Then they would have to travel to Virginia for a neutral site game on Saturday. I say Virginia because Towson and James Madison are the middle two teams in north to south order.

(07-12-2017 03:07 PM)solohawks Wrote:  That is what the Horizon does, except the #1 seeds gets to host the semis and finals. I think the CAA should look at that idea especially if they are going to be playing their major games on off nights, like the Horizon.
I like the fact that the CAA Final is not on the last Saturday with a double-digit amount of Finals and about five conferences of Semifinals.
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(07-12-2017 03:07 PM)solohawks Wrote:  That is what the Horizon does, except the #1 seeds gets to host the semis and finals. I think the CAA should look at that idea especially if they are going to be playing their major games on off nights, like the Horizon.

Last year the Horizon changed their format. Now it is held in Detroit at the Red Wings new arena (last year was at Joe Louis Arena). It drew terribly, after Oakland, Detroit and Valpo were all knocked out early. The final ended up being Milwaukee and Northern Kentucky in front of a couple of thousand people. It looked bad on TV as most of the fans were NKU students that were brought in the day of the game by bus.

This Tuesday night slot won't be without competition either. That Horizon title game, the NEC, the WCC (with Gonzaga and/or St. Mary's almost every year) and the Summit were all on that night last season, plus an ACC first round game.

With D'Antonio's Big East background, I'm surprised he didn't swing a slot for FS1/2 to carry these games. That would have given a lot more exposure to the league than this deal.
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(07-12-2017 07:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  You can't expect teams to play three consecutive days at three places. Delaware was the 9 seed in 2016-2017. They beat 8 seed Hofstra and lost to 1 seed UNCW. Let's say those games were at Hofstra on Thursday and at UNCW on Friday. Let's say Delaware won both games. Then they would have to travel to Virginia for a neutral site game on Saturday. I say Virginia because Towson and James Madison are the middle two teams in north to south order.

Thats fair. So let's do a format change and reduce the number of qualifying teams so its just Fri-Sun. Have teams play early Friday so they can fly out by Friday night so there is time to recover for the weekend. Our conference has shown historically that the teams outside of the top 4 really do not have much of a chance anyways, so this would be the advantage for the top seeds. I have no problems giving top teams in the conference some type of advantage for their regular season work.
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(07-13-2017 06:21 AM)dan10 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  You can't expect teams to play three consecutive days at three places. Delaware was the 9 seed in 2016-2017. They beat 8 seed Hofstra and lost to 1 seed UNCW. Let's say those games were at Hofstra on Thursday and at UNCW on Friday. Let's say Delaware won both games. Then they would have to travel to Virginia for a neutral site game on Saturday. I say Virginia because Towson and James Madison are the middle two teams in north to south order.

Thats fair. So let's do a format change and reduce the number of qualifying teams so its just Fri-Sun. Have teams play early Friday so they can fly out by Friday night so there is time to recover for the weekend. Our conference has shown historically that the teams outside of the top 4 really do not have much of a chance anyways, so this would be the advantage for the top seeds. I have no problems giving top teams in the conference some type of advantage for their regular season work.
Top two teams host multiple games at their location opening day, Then it moves to neutral site. One travel day
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(07-12-2017 02:22 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:57 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:41 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Nothing says crappy conference like 1000 people or less in a 14K seat arena, which is what may happen.

^^^This^^^

And no amount of Claflin can fix that!

Claflin cannot be forceably administered to a patient. They have to take it voluntarily, and that means they first have to realize they are sick.

In the case, the CAA patient doesn't want to face up to the fact that all is not well. Obviously the Tuesday night championship was done for TV....yet they don't seem to have a clue about the effect that an empty/sparse crowd area during league's biggest showcase game has on it's image.

UNCW vs Charleston sort of bailed them out (enabled them) in 2017. They won't be so lucky in the future.

By that time, even prescription-strength Claflin may not be enough!
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Will regular season games still be on roku? Have seen nothing about any games on TV in regular season
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Whatever TV the CAA has for this season will probably be announced in late August, whenever they usually release the conference schedule.
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(07-12-2017 12:41 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:10 PM)Dash Rip Rock Jr Wrote:  Nothing says crappy conference more than playing conference tournament games on home courts

I disagree

Nothing says crappy conference like 1000 people or less in a 14K seat arena, which is what may happen.

Welcome to CUSA and the Sun Belt!

Actually, no worries. Charleston is the odds on favorite and they will likely be in through Tuesday - possibly for the 3rd and last year as well in Charleston. They have a nice following as seen last year.

After that, agree, back to a more central location.
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(07-13-2017 02:06 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  Will regular season games still be on roku? Have seen nothing about any games on TV in regular season

They don't have football tv announced much less basketball

Having said that CAA.TV is owned by the CAA so I would guess games would still be available as they were last year
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(07-12-2017 12:41 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:10 PM)Dash Rip Rock Jr Wrote:  Nothing says crappy conference more than playing conference tournament games on home courts

I disagree

Nothing says crappy conference like 1000 people or less in a 14K seat arena, which is what may happen.

Let's be honest, in D1 hoops you can count the number of sold out or near capacity crowds for conference tournaments on one hand.

No one is watching Milwaukee vs Northern Kentucky in Joe Louis Arena on a Monday night. Who cares.

If its NU vs. Hofstra in Charleston so be it. Luck of the draw. Why obsess about TV look. No one is watching anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like a sellout too, but it can't happen all the time.
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