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RE: A conference results/champs prediction
(07-12-2017 12:58 AM)topperfan84 Wrote:  I don't get the ODU hype. But then again, I haven't seen them be competitive against us, ever.

We are good against the teams we are supposed to beat and bad against the teams we are supposed to get beat by. I think they hype surrounding the team is based on how quickly we got to where we are - I believe this year will be the first year where we have the full FBS team top to bottom. The argument against the hype is "we didn't play anybody" last year, since Marshall decided to self implode they no longer count as a quality win, we played against a USM backup QB, and we didn't have MT or LT on the schedule, so the remaining teams we played (UTSA, Charlotte, UTEP, F_U) don't count. Furthermore, our bowl win was against a random directional school from Michigan so that doesn't count either.
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RE: A conference results/champs prediction
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....
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RE: A conference results/champs prediction
(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

Hey, we have to be right eventually!
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(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

I'm certainly not ready to right WKU off yet. The proof is in the pudding as they say. You guys graduated some key parts of your O-Line though if I'm not mistaken. White was pretty comfortable in the pocket last season. We'll see if he faces more pressure this year and how he handles it.
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Eh it doesn't matter what preseason predictions are. For a good number of schools, there are a lot of factors in play to make it difficult to know who is going to do what. Qb replacements are always an unknown, replacing a bunch of starters at once is not much different. New coaches a few schools, things just seem up in the air mostly to me. All these predictions serve no purpose other than to sell papers etc and make some fans feel good.

I am curious though, you charlotte guys have an awful lot of confidence and I am not sure why.......anyways, I guess that's why we play the game.
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(07-12-2017 09:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

I'm certainly not ready to right WKU off yet. The proof is in the pudding as they say. You guys graduated some key parts of your O-Line though if I'm not mistaken. White was pretty comfortable in the pocket last season. We'll see if he faces more pressure this year and how he handles it.

O-Line will not be an issue. The guys we have stepping in played a lot of minutes in rotation last year. Its all good. WKU will be as good as we have been the last 2years and with a very favorable schedule. LOOK OUT!
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(07-12-2017 09:52 AM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

I'm certainly not ready to right WKU off yet. The proof is in the pudding as they say. You guys graduated some key parts of your O-Line though if I'm not mistaken. White was pretty comfortable in the pocket last season. We'll see if he faces more pressure this year and how he handles it.

O-Line will not be an issue. The guys we have stepping in played a lot of minutes in rotation last year. Its all good. WKU will be as good as we have been the last 2years and with a very favorable schedule. LOOK OUT!

What I like is our secondary has been intact now for 4 seasons, we have a lot of experience back there which you need in a passing league like CUSA.....Really I don't see many players able to get pressure on any QB in CUSA besides that Hendrickson guy last season from FAU, D-Line is definitely a weakness with a lot of our teams.....Crazy but the Sun Belt was a better league for D Lineman than CUSA has been....Now CUSA is still better for sure offensively but Sun Belt had an occasion mean nasty D Line who could get after your QB....3 seasons in CUSA, I just don't see many impressive D Line including ours last few years...
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(07-12-2017 09:35 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  Eh it doesn't matter what preseason predictions are. For a good number of schools, there are a lot of factors in play to make it difficult to know who is going to do what. Qb replacements are always an unknown, replacing a bunch of starters at once is not much different. New coaches a few schools, things just seem up in the air mostly to me. All these predictions serve no purpose other than to sell papers etc and make some fans feel good.

I am curious though, you charlotte guys have an awful lot of confidence and I am not sure why.......anyways, I guess that's why we play the game.

An "awful lot of confidence"? Because we don't agree we will be last? We were not, last, last year. In fact, we could have been considered a mid pack team. We beat your team on your field last year. Why are you so confident?
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(07-12-2017 10:00 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:52 AM)GreekTopper Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:05 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

I'm certainly not ready to right WKU off yet. The proof is in the pudding as they say. You guys graduated some key parts of your O-Line though if I'm not mistaken. White was pretty comfortable in the pocket last season. We'll see if he faces more pressure this year and how he handles it.

O-Line will not be an issue. The guys we have stepping in played a lot of minutes in rotation last year. Its all good. WKU will be as good as we have been the last 2years and with a very favorable schedule. LOOK OUT!

What I like is our secondary has been intact now for 4 seasons, we have a lot of experience back there which you need in a passing league like CUSA.....Really I don't see many players able to get pressure on any QB in CUSA besides that Hendrickson guy last season from FAU, D-Line is definitely a weakness with a lot of our teams.....Crazy but the Sun Belt was a better league for D Lineman than CUSA has been....Now CUSA is still better for sure offensively but Sun Belt had an occasion mean nasty D Line who could get after your QB....3 seasons in CUSA, I just don't see many impressive D Line including ours last few years...

Funny because Hendrickson didn't lead the conference in TFL or Sacks, that was done by a Sophomore at Tech who was a Frosh AA the year prior. The previous year the conference had a DL go in the first round. Tech has had bad LB play, but Bates, Ellis, Dora, and Butler are all in the NFL and played together in some combination in CUSA. Ferguson is also one of the top DE's in the country and his pressure numbers speak for themself.
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RE: A conference results/champs prediction
(07-12-2017 07:12 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 04:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 03:53 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  This season will be somewhat crazy. On one hand, we have three clear leaders in the East: MTSU, WKU, and ODU with Marshall, FIU, and FAU, supposedly, far behind.
But, then, you get new fancy coaches at FIU and FAU, with a name and a media pull. And, as far as FAU is concerned, you get a team returning 20 of the 22 starters. Yet, on another hand, those 20 returnees are from the 2016 3-9 team. Will FAU and FIU bridge the gap to the top three? Will ODU fall back due to lack of a QB? Will Marshall return to respectability? What about Charlotte? Where do they rank?

I think both FL schools should be improved. How much? We'll see. As far as ODU, we still have one if not the best running attack in the conference and a lot returning on the O-line and WR. As long as we have a serviceable QB we'll be able to move the ball against most defenses in the league. LB is a question on D but there's young talent so hopefully they'll gel early on.

But you're right, a lot of questions in the east. People were doubting WKU after Doughty left and they didn't miss a beat.

People have doubted WKU every season.....2 seasons ago it was our defense will never be good enough to win CUSA, last season it was no way we win without Doughty...This season its no way we win with a new coaching staff.....

If UAB hadn't dropped its football program you wouldn't have won the first one. The UAB additions on defense gave you just enough to let your offense carry you. Last year was a different story. Last year I believe you had the most complete team though you still should have lost to us had our QB not audibled from running out the clock to throwing an incomplete pass.
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