(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

Trade agreements multilateral treaties are precursors. Eventually, the agreement will involve larger and larger governments and blocs. Would you rather be in the EU or in Trump's America?

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(07-09-2017 03:12 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Salon
Trump's Speech in Poland Sounded Like an Alt-Right Manifesto

Vox
Trump's Speech is White Nationalist Rhetoric

Are these people really that stupid?

The funny thing is, if anything, if you just change the subject matter to "climate change"----it sounds like the typical speech delivered by the left---complete with the "last chance" references.

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

Any American who is a globalist does not understand how world trade currently works.

The United States in the world's largest importer. We import more than the entire EU (still including Great Britian) combined. In the United States 12.6% of our GDP comes from exports. That's a good amount, but let's look at the countries that are complaining about Trump's protectionist stance. Germany derives 47% of its GDP from exports. For France it's 30%, Mexico is 35%, Canada is 31% and China is 22%. The world average is 29.5%.

Our trade deficit with the EU is nearly 500 billion per year. That means if we continue to "stay in our place" that we will send 5 trillion more dollars to the EU in support of their economy than they will send to the U.S. in support of our economy. Now, when you consider that there are really very few things that we import from the EU that we could not manufacture ourselves, who really benefits and who really suffers from a trade war?

I watched a YouTube video today that was about German exchange students who lived a year in the U.S. The question was what did they miss when they went back home. It was a lot of different stuff, but what struck me is that they said they would miss shopping at the malls because stuff like Hollister was so expensive in Germany that they could not afford it but here they could buy it so cheap. That's because Germany already has protectionist policies in place and always has.

Trump just wants what every American should want, a level playing field for our goods abroad. Compare the tariffs on American cars in Europe versus European cars here, same with Harleys sold overseas versus Japanese and European bikes sold here. We have subsidized the economy of other industrialized nations long enough and at great expense to our fiscal well being.

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation.

Wow, someone took a Poli Sci 101 class. Very impressive.

That's the most basic b*tch definition I've ever heard. You're incredibly naive.

(07-09-2017 08:54 PM)banker Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

Any American who is a globalist does not understand how world trade currently works.

The United States in the world's largest importer. We import more than the entire EU (still including Great Britian) combined. In the United States 12.6% of our GDP comes from exports. That's a good amount, but let's look at the countries that are complaining about Trump's protectionist stance. Germany derives 47% of its GDP from exports. For France it's 30%, Mexico is 35%, Canada is 31% and China is 22%. The world average is 29.5%.

Our trade deficit with the EU is nearly 500 billion per year. That means if we continue to "stay in our place" that we will send 5 trillion more dollars to the EU in support of their economy than they will send to the U.S. in support of our economy. Now, when you consider that there are really very few things that we import from the EU that we could not manufacture ourselves, who really benefits and who really suffers from a trade war?

I watched a YouTube video today that was about German exchange students who lived a year in the U.S. The question was what did they miss when they went back home. It was a lot of different stuff, but what struck me is that they said they would miss shopping at the malls because stuff like Hollister was so expensive in Germany that they could not afford it but here they could buy it so cheap. That's because Germany already has protectionist policies in place and always has.

Trump just wants what every American should want, a level playing field for our goods abroad. Compare the tariffs on American cars in Europe versus European cars here, same with Harleys sold overseas versus Japanese and European bikes sold here. We have subsidized the economy of other industrialized nations long enough and at great expense to our fiscal well being.

Which is why they are so angry with this new American direction. We aren't anti trade. We just want FAIR deals. That's ultimately why we withdrew from the Paris Accords---it would erode our competitive advantage.

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

I'll explain why I am not a globalism. Globalism is support for supranational governmental organizations, i.e. EU, UN, and WTO, etc. which subvert or actively try to destroy national sovereignty. I believe government is best when is it closest to the voters. A remote world or supranational government cares little for the average man. It also destroys the cultures of nations. If the EU succeeds, the french no longer are french but become European citizens. One of the most horrifying examples of supranational government abuse is the EU muslim migrant crisis. The EU is forcing nations to take in migrants which causes a significant increase in terror attacks and sexual assaults, not to mention run of the mill violent and property crime. When some nations refused, the EU decided to sue them!

Secondly, globalism is for unelected bureaucratic structures. The TPP, WTO, NAFTA, trade agreements which have harmed our people. I support honest trade with all nations, but we should make agreements which benefit our people. I favor protectionism in some circumstances. Maybe slap a tariff on a country that's "cheating" at trade.

Finally, nationalism does not mean isolationism. It can mean non-interventionism which is closely related to our founders' view of foreign policy. We should avoid foreign wars for vague national interests. Globalism promotes the US being the world police. That we have some duty to fight everywhere, which we don't. As a non-globalist, I only want us to fight wars of self-defense or where we have a very direct tangible interest.

(07-09-2017 08:54 PM)banker Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

Any American who is a globalist does not understand how world trade currently works.

The United States in the world's largest importer. We import more than the entire EU (still including Great Britian) combined. In the United States 12.6% of our GDP comes from exports. That's a good amount, but let's look at the countries that are complaining about Trump's protectionist stance. Germany derives 47% of its GDP from exports. For France it's 30%, Mexico is 35%, Canada is 31% and China is 22%. The world average is 29.5%.

Our trade deficit with the EU is nearly 500 billion per year. That means if we continue to "stay in our place" that we will send 5 trillion more dollars to the EU in support of their economy than they will send to the U.S. in support of our economy. Now, when you consider that there are really very few things that we import from the EU that we could not manufacture ourselves, who really benefits and who really suffers from a trade war?

I watched a YouTube video today that was about German exchange students who lived a year in the U.S. The question was what did they miss when they went back home. It was a lot of different stuff, but what struck me is that they said they would miss shopping at the malls because stuff like Hollister was so expensive in Germany that they could not afford it but here they could buy it so cheap. That's because Germany already has protectionist policies in place and always has.

Trump just wants what every American should want, a level playing field for our goods abroad. Compare the tariffs on American cars in Europe versus European cars here, same with Harleys sold overseas versus Japanese and European bikes sold here. We have subsidized the economy of other industrialized nations long enough and at great expense to our fiscal well being.

Wasted breath. Democrats too stupid to understand. Valiant effort though

(07-09-2017 04:24 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Liberals hate the west, except for our cool technology and food.

And mom's basement.

I prefer to call my particular brand of Nationalism American Exceptionalism.

I have no problem with regulation of international trade with like-minded countries on the understanding those agreements end where our border and territorial waters begin. I'm all for defensive alliances with our allies so long as we aren't footing the entire bill in fiscal, material, and human terms. I have no problem with keeping rogue nations like Iran and N. Korea in check.

But when you reach our borders and territorial waters US law is the only law.

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

Ostrich with head-in-sand images flashing by.

(07-09-2017 08:54 PM)banker Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:21 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

No a globalist promotes trade agreements and international cooperation. Nationalist are isolationist that don't know how the world trade works.

Any American who is a globalist does not understand how world trade currently works.

The United States in the world's largest importer. We import more than the entire EU (still including Great Britian) combined. In the United States 12.6% of our GDP comes from exports. That's a good amount, but let's look at the countries that are complaining about Trump's protectionist stance. Germany derives 47% of its GDP from exports. For France it's 30%, Mexico is 35%, Canada is 31% and China is 22%. The world average is 29.5%.

Our trade deficit with the EU is nearly 500 billion per year. That means if we continue to "stay in our place" that we will send 5 trillion more dollars to the EU in support of their economy than they will send to the U.S. in support of our economy. Now, when you consider that there are really very few things that we import from the EU that we could not manufacture ourselves, who really benefits and who really suffers from a trade war?

I watched a YouTube video today that was about German exchange students who lived a year in the U.S. The question was what did they miss when they went back home. It was a lot of different stuff, but what struck me is that they said they would miss shopping at the malls because stuff like Hollister was so expensive in Germany that they could not afford it but here they could buy it so cheap. That's because Germany already has protectionist policies in place and always has.

Trump just wants what every American should want, a level playing field for our goods abroad. Compare the tariffs on American cars in Europe versus European cars here, same with Harleys sold overseas versus Japanese and European bikes sold here. We have subsidized the economy of other industrialized nations long enough and at great expense to our fiscal well being.

A few years ago I worked with a lady who became engaged to a guy from Germany. He was an accounting student at the UofM (Memphis).

She was so excited about the upcoming wedding and moving to Germany.

We had an engagement party for them. As an alum of the accountancy program at the UofM I looked forward to meeting him.

During our conversation I asked how soon after the ceremony would they be moving to Germany. He said they weren't. He said the taxes were outrageous. He planned to stay in the States. I told him he might want to discuss it with her.

I wonder how everything turned out for them.

(07-09-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-09-2017 07:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  One world government? No thanks, not for me either. Apparently, not for Britain either. Ha.

Who said anything about a one world government? Alex Jones is that you?

That is globalism, by definition... if you disagree, you are a nationalist.

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shhhhhhh, don't pop his bubble, Ever.