(07-29-2017 08:58 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Having a clean, successful program would certainly be good. Anyone believe in their heart that Stansbury is clean?

I'm not interested in speculation over his past or anything that happened regarding Mitchell Robinson. I'll say this, when Robinson was announced, I said then that I do not like the practice of hiring fsmily/friends/mentors of recruits in order to sign them, but that it was perfectly within the rules.

Further, if Stans doesn't run a clean program, he will be caught and Western will get hammered. Certainly won't be treated like a lot of P5 programs have been.

Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty. The national media never accused him of cheating when getting good players to go to Texas A&M. WKU has a stronger hoops history than most P5s.

If we look at past violations, I believe Kermit got into some trouble with NCAA. I think he is a tremdous coach and great for the league. Just because there were some issues 20-25 years ago, I don't just assume he runs a dirty program. Stansbury is recruiting with the bluebloods and they don't like it. Both Stansbury and Kermit are both great for the league

BTW: Robinson committed to Stansbury at Texas A&M with no godfather on staff.

(07-29-2017 10:19 AM)CrushMI Wrote:  Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty. The national media never accused him of cheating when getting good players to go to Texas A&M. WKU has a stronger hoops history than most P5s.

BTW: Robinson committed to Stansbury at Texas A&M with no godfather on staff.

There's no debating that WKU has a rich basketball tradition, I'm just not sure how much today's 18 year old kid, especially anywhere outside of Kentucky, knows or even cares. With respect to Courtney Lee and some big moments like Ty Rogers, current big name NBA players and big moments in March in the relative recent past are what matters to these kids, not tradition built largely in a time some of the recruits parents would barely remember at this point.

And Robinson committing to Stansbury at aTm, without Shamond, is nice and maybe enough to get him to follow to Western, but aTm is a perfect example of a school that would love to have WKU's tradition in hoops, but has piles, upon piles, upon piles of cash and even on a 100% "on the up and up" visit, I have to imagine how rich the Aggies have gotten since moving to the SEC has to ve evident everywhere and even just a second tier star like Deandre Jordan has to help.

(07-29-2017 11:39 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 10:19 AM)CrushMI Wrote:  Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty. The national media never accused him of cheating when getting good players to go to Texas A&M. WKU has a stronger hoops history than most P5s.

BTW: Robinson committed to Stansbury at Texas A&M with no godfather on staff.

There's no debating that WKU has a rich basketball tradition, I'm just not sure how much today's 18 year old kid, especially anywhere outside of Kentucky, knows or even cares. With respect to Courtney Lee and some big moments like Ty Rogers, current big name NBA players and big moments in March in the relative recent past are what matters to these kids, not tradition built largely in a time some of the recruits parents would barely remember at this point.

And Robinson committing to Stansbury at aTm, without Shamond, is nice and maybe enough to get him to follow to Western, but aTm is a perfect example of a school that would love to have WKU's tradition in hoops, but has piles, upon piles, upon piles of cash and even on a 100% "on the up and up" visit, I have to imagine how rich the Aggies have gotten since moving to the SEC has to ve evident everywhere and even just a second tier star like Deandre Jordan has to help.

Does Missouri have piles and piles of that SEC money too?

(07-29-2017 02:42 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 11:39 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 10:19 AM)CrushMI Wrote:  Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty. The national media never accused him of cheating when getting good players to go to Texas A&M. WKU has a stronger hoops history than most P5s.

BTW: Robinson committed to Stansbury at Texas A&M with no godfather on staff.

There's no debating that WKU has a rich basketball tradition, I'm just not sure how much today's 18 year old kid, especially anywhere outside of Kentucky, knows or even cares. With respect to Courtney Lee and some big moments like Ty Rogers, current big name NBA players and big moments in March in the relative recent past are what matters to these kids, not tradition built largely in a time some of the recruits parents would barely remember at this point.

And Robinson committing to Stansbury at aTm, without Shamond, is nice and maybe enough to get him to follow to Western, but aTm is a perfect example of a school that would love to have WKU's tradition in hoops, but has piles, upon piles, upon piles of cash and even on a 100% "on the up and up" visit, I have to imagine how rich the Aggies have gotten since moving to the SEC has to ve evident everywhere and even just a second tier star like Deandre Jordan has to help.

Does Missouri have piles and piles of that SEC money too?

They've got half of Sam Walton's kids. They can visit the ATM when they need to.

(07-29-2017 02:42 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  Does Missouri have piles and piles of that SEC money too?

I'm not sure where aTm and Mizzou were ranked nationally in total revenue when in the Big XII, but I doubt it was 1st and 30th respectively.

The privates don't release their numbers so no Baylor, TCU or Vandy, but 2017 total revenues...

SEC
1. aTm $194M
4. Bama $164M
7. LSU $142M
8. Florida $141M
9. Tennessee $140M
10. Auburn $140M
13. Kentucky $132M
14. Arkansas $125M
15. Georgia $124M
17. South Carolina $122M
24. Ole Miss $111M
30. Mizzou $97M
34. Miss State $95M

Big XII
2. Texas $188M
6. Oklahoma $150M
26. WVU $105M
37. Oklahoma State $94M
38. Kansas $91M
42. Texas Tech $83M
48. Iowa State $78M
49. Kansas State $78M

so you tell me...

WKU released a statement that MR has been suspended indefinitely for violation of team rules.

(07-31-2017 11:16 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  WKU released a statement that MR has been suspended indefinitely for violation of team rules.

"Oh you wanna quit? Well, you're suspended! Ha! Take that!"

No way Stansbury would take him back at this point even if he wanted to come back...I think everyone at WKU is ready to move out without MR and his soap opera drama saga ends finally.....He has a lot of growing up to do if he wants to have a career in the NBA...Talent is only one part of the equation.....

(07-31-2017 11:16 AM)techdawg28 Wrote:  WKU released a statement that MR has been suspended indefinitely for violation of team rules.

(07-29-2017 09:18 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 08:58 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Anyone believe in their heart that Stansbury is clean?

I have no idea. And since you came up short on the supporting evidence for Stansbury ever having been "convicted" of anything, my guess is that you also have no idea beyond your own personally held opinion.

Opinions are fine, and are what this forum is all about. But when those opinions go to personal reputations, they probably ought to be a bit more carefully considered.

I, for one, hope that Stansbury is clean. And I hope that he delivers a good, competitive mbb program to our conference. We sure need it.

He was suspended at Austin Peay by the school for cheating. What does does one need as evidence?

(07-31-2017 11:34 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No way Stansbury would take him back at this point even if he wanted to come back...I think everyone at WKU is ready to move out without MR and his soap opera drama saga ends finally.....He has a lot of growing up to do if he wants to have a career in the NBA...Talent is only one part of the equation.....

Yeah. Ok.

What a bunch of drama. Tell the kid to hit the bricks. Most knew he would never play at WKU. His mom wants big time and big time money.

(07-31-2017 02:06 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 11:34 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No way Stansbury would take him back at this point even if he wanted to come back...I think everyone at WKU is ready to move out without MR and his soap opera drama saga ends finally.....He has a lot of growing up to do if he wants to have a career in the NBA...Talent is only one part of the equation.....

Yeah. Ok.

His third strike and my guess this is only half of what has been going on with this kid....Doesn't matter what talent you have if at some point you do not learn from any of your mistakes or even care about any mistakes you have made...

(07-31-2017 02:31 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  What a bunch of drama. Tell the kid to hit the bricks. Most knew he would never play at WKU. His mom wants big time and big time money.

Nope its not his mom at all, she is the one who wants him at WKU, its his step dad and our former assistant "godfather" Shammond Wiliams that are trying to cut deals overseas for Mitchell to play....

(07-31-2017 01:50 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 09:18 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 08:58 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Anyone believe in their heart that Stansbury is clean?

I have no idea. And since you came up short on the supporting evidence for Stansbury ever having been "convicted" of anything, my guess is that you also have no idea beyond your own personally held opinion.

Opinions are fine, and are what this forum is all about. But when those opinions go to personal reputations, they probably ought to be a bit more carefully considered.

I, for one, hope that Stansbury is clean. And I hope that he delivers a good, competitive mbb program to our conference. We sure need it.

He was suspended at Austin Peay by the school for cheating. What does does one need as evidence?

once again...he was suspended by the school for contacting 1 single recruit in the dead period when he was 25 years old at his 1st division 1 coaching job.

And once again we will reiterate that he has never been in any NCAA trouble throughout the rest of his entire coaching career. That is like saying someone is an alcoholic because they got drunk 1 time when they were younger and were arrested for a PI.

It seems like you have some personal vendetta against Stansbury. Hell another ODU fan even called you out on it.

(07-31-2017 02:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 02:31 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  What a bunch of drama. Tell the kid to hit the bricks. Most knew he would never play at WKU. His mom wants big time and big time money.

Nope its not his mom at all, she is the one who wants him at WKU, its his step dad and our former assistant "godfather" Shammond Wiliams that are trying to cut deals overseas for Mitchell to play....

You are a better program and school without him.

(07-31-2017 07:05 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 02:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-31-2017 02:31 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  What a bunch of drama. Tell the kid to hit the bricks. Most knew he would never play at WKU. His mom wants big time and big time money.

Nope its not his mom at all, she is the one who wants him at WKU, its his step dad and our former assistant "godfather" Shammond Wiliams that are trying to cut deals overseas for Mitchell to play....

You are a better program and school without him.

Agreed...

(07-29-2017 10:19 AM)CrushMI Wrote:  Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty.

Stansbury's problem has always been that he targets high rated recruits who either never make it to campus or are ultimately dismissed be it for academic or character issues (which, in hindsight, helps understand why other coaches mysteriously backed off those 4- and 5-star talents). But I'm sure that issue is all in the past...

Oh, and he is absolutely filthy, but that's just another opinion to add to the list.

(08-01-2017 10:19 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(07-29-2017 10:19 AM)CrushMI Wrote:  Stansbury has been a strong recruiter at MSU, Texas A&M, and now WKU. He has never had any NCAA issues. Just because he targets high rated recruits, everyone assumes it is dirty.

Stansbury's problem has always been that he targets high rated recruits who either never make it to campus or are ultimately dismissed be it for academic or character issues (which, in hindsight, helps understand why other coaches mysteriously backed off those 4- and 5-star talents). But I'm sure that issue is all in the past...

Oh, and he is absolutely filthy, but that's just another opinion to add to the list.

Lets see the proof or hear the stories? Yes that's right crickets...Everyone accuses him of all kind of stuff but has zero evidence backing up these off the wall claims...