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Regional Conference?
With the economic sense a Sunbelt CUSA realignment makes, do you all believe it would be something Liberty would be interested in?

North - Liberty, ODU, JMU, Marshall, Charlotte, App St.

South - WKU, MTSU, UAB, Ga St, GSU, Coastal.


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RE: Regional Conference?
(07-08-2017 11:40 AM)ODU1986 Wrote:  With the economic sense a Sunbelt CUSA realignment makes, do you all believe it would be something Liberty would be interested in?

North - Liberty, ODU, JMU, Marshall, Charlotte, App St.

South - WKU, MTSU, UAB, Ga St, GSU, Coastal.


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It may make sense but I'd be very surprised if LU was extended an invite and if LU was to accept. If there were shifts in the AAC, and C-USA had a slot that would seem a more likely scenario. LUs history with the SBC had been anything other than mutually appealing.
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I believe ODU would welcome a conference affiliation with both Liberty and JMU. I just suspect Liberty may aspire to have a much larger national footprint than a regional conference can provide.


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RE: Regional Conference?
(07-08-2017 01:32 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  I believe ODU would welcome a conference affiliation with both Liberty and JMU. I just suspect Liberty may aspire to have a much larger national footprint than a regional conference can provide.


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The SBC invite snub is reminiscent of the Southern Conference snub some years ago that LU experienced. It's true LU likely has the highest ambitions among ODU, JMU, App St and most all other colleges in the region. The circumstances are different this time and I could see LU being a part of and attracted to a regional FBS grouping. Now as LU gains credibility and awareness in the FBS setting, those other schools may then feel a regional alliance without LU would be beneficial. For the foreseeable future, a regional alliance would seem to serve LU and the others well. And that is likely to change in 10+ years as LU gains a national following and develops it's program to be FBS competitive.
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RE: Regional Conference?
I think Liberty would join any FBS conference that asked. I don't think Liberty has any sort of desire to be independent like Notre Dame but rather are doing it out of necessity. It is my understanding that Liberty was denied their application (whether officially or not) to the Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA.

The real value for Liberty would be to upgrade the conference of the non-football sports from the Big South to something else. That would help Liberty get to where they want to go better than their current set up.

I do think Liberty has a leg up on JMU as Liberty is already transitioning to FBS. Liberty lacks being part of one of the current conferences which hurts Liberty finding a home in a brand new conference. To dissolve a current conference, you'll need the votes and the only way to get the votes of the members is to ensure enough find homes. No one needs Liberty's vote so I don't imagine Liberty being a priority add.
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RE: Regional Conference?
(07-08-2017 11:40 AM)ODU1986 Wrote:  With the economic sense a Sunbelt CUSA realignment makes, do you all believe it would be something Liberty would be interested in?

North - Liberty, ODU, JMU, Marshall, Charlotte, App St.

South - WKU, MTSU, UAB, Ga St, GSU, Coastal.


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Would they be interested? Yes. Would it happen? No.
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RE: Regional Conference?
Liberty would join that hypothetical conference in a heart beat. That would be an awesome G-5 level conference too if it were ever to come to fruition.

That said despite Liberty previously being more formally snubbed by the Sun Belt, I believe Liberty would also accept an invitation from them in a heart beat as well. Just as I believe the Sun Belt would roll out the red carpet if JMU ever asked to join them. However, I don't see either of these happening. I think our most probable home is going to be CUSA after some more realignment within the next few years.

From what I've been able to conclude through all of the various articles and boards that I've read is that the MAC and CUSA's league offices didn't appear to have any interest when Liberty initially and informally approached them. The Sun Belt's Commisioner and and Office did, but the University Presidents did not. However, CUSA's interests towards us became more favorable when it appeared that the Big 12 was going to expand. Stating the obvious, now that we're 1-A, and with decent success on the football field and a better basketball team will change the the way all of the G-5 conferences view us. Which is was JLFJR and McCaw both said in February.
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Well I think it's pretty clear that ODU has no issue with Liberty, and I also believe ODU would much prefer to be in a regional conference.

We also know that JMU has stated they would move to 1A if the proper opportunity presented itself.

Seems to me it's really just a matter of time until ODU, Liberty, and JMU are all in the same conference, whatever the regional make up of that conference may be.


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I think the regional conferences make sense. It would allow ODU JMU and LU to battle for Virginia. Add CCU in there and LU has another game both fan bases will get fired up about. App and Marshall would give a strong top of the conference. Ga St would allow for the conference championship to be held in Atlanta. It just makes a lot of sense.
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RE: Regional Conference?
App State isn't moving anywhere without Ga Southern, so any scenario would include both of them.
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