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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
The Indy idea might be a no-go but the MWC could probably do a better media deal if it were smaller. 8 is all that is needed for an FBS conference so Hawaii, SDSU, Fresno St, Boise St, UNLV, CSU, UNM and AFA (or WYO if AFA wanted to do Indy) would be a more concentrated, higher level conference that might demand a decent media deal.
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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
This is intriguing. All of G5 is feeling this. Travel expense is going to force the hand.
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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
David's idea of YSU on the ACC network......cant see that but I like the idea of G5 pooling recources on a conference network though or as part of the P5s.

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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
(07-08-2017 09:00 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  David's idea of YSU on the ACC network......cant see that but I like the idea of G5 pooling recources on a conference network though or as part of the P5s.

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I believe a G5 network makes a tremendous amout of sense---for multiple reasons.

1) Its tremendous expsosure and will offer national broadcast time slots not typcially available to G5's.

2) It offers a national statge from which to launch talking head shows and a "Game Day" clone that focuses on the G5. A network treating the G5 seriously could draw a very sizable loyal audience.

3) It would create a alternative to any ESPN take it or leave it offer. Essentially, it creates another bidder in the marketplace.

4) If you keep the price very low, the network would be on the basic tier of most cable systems and would likely have almost as many subscribers as ESPN. 80 million subscribers at 13 cents a month is over 10,4 million a month. Split evenly, thats about 125 million a year---or 25 million per G5 conference (roughly 2 million per school). Better yet, that mostly 2nd and 3rd tier inventory. It still leaves each conference with plenty of inventory to sell to traditional outlets. Add in 5 regional nets (like the Pac12 Network does) and a robust streaming option---and the G5 has all the quality exposure they need.

As the network gains traction and viewership, you can slowly bump up the rate to increase revenue while maintaining subscriber levels. At a still very reasonable 50 cents per subscriber the network would bring home 480 million a year---almost 100 million per G5. A G5 network could feasibly do that because the 65 G5 fanbases basicly have a nationwide footprint and (as a group) have as a fanbase thats as large or larger than most any P5 confernece. If you had each confernece sending 20 games to the network---its 100 game inventory is going to be hard for cable systems to ignore. Its low price means it probably gets added without facing much resistance.
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Under the current rules, no G5 (other than Army), WANTS to be an independent. You receive less from the CFP and you aren't represented on the NCAA Board of Directors.
07-08-2017 03:30 PM
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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
(07-08-2017 01:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 09:00 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  David's idea of YSU on the ACC network......cant see that but I like the idea of G5 pooling recources on a conference network though or as part of the P5s.

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I believe a G5 network makes a tremendous amout of sense---for multiple reasons.

1) Its tremendous expsosure and will offer national broadcast time slots not typcially available to G5's.

2) It offers a national statge from which to launch talking head shows and a "Game Day" clone that focuses on the G5. A network treating the G5 seriously could draw a very sizable loyal audience.

3) It would create a alternative to any ESPN take it or leave it offer. Essentially, it creates another bidder in the marketplace.

4) If you keep the price very low, the network would be on the basic tier of most cable systems and would likely have almost as many subscribers as ESPN. 80 million subscribers at 13 cents a month is over 10,4 million a month. Split evenly, thats about 125 million a year---or 25 million per G5 conference (roughly 2 million per school). Better yet, that mostly 2nd and 3rd tier inventory. It still leaves each conference with plenty of inventory to sell to traditional outlets. Add in 5 regional nets (like the Pac12 Network does) and a robust streaming option---and the G5 has all the quality exposure they need.

As the network gains traction and viewership, you can slowly bump up the rate to increase revenue while maintaining subscriber levels. At a still very reasonable 50 cents per subscriber the network would bring home 480 million a year---almost 100 million per G5. A G5 network could feasibly do that because the 65 G5 fanbases basicly have a nationwide footprint and (as a group) have as a fanbase thats as large or larger than most any P5 confernece. If you had each confernece sending 20 games to the network---its 100 game inventory is going to be hard for cable systems to ignore. Its low price means it probably gets added without facing much resistance.

So would this be in addition to another contract for the top tier games? For example, ECU home games vs ACC teams could still be on ESPN/ABC correct?
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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
(07-08-2017 03:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 01:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 09:00 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  David's idea of YSU on the ACC network......cant see that but I like the idea of G5 pooling recources on a conference network though or as part of the P5s.

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I believe a G5 network makes a tremendous amout of sense---for multiple reasons.

1) Its tremendous expsosure and will offer national broadcast time slots not typcially available to G5's.

2) It offers a national statge from which to launch talking head shows and a "Game Day" clone that focuses on the G5. A network treating the G5 seriously could draw a very sizable loyal audience.

3) It would create a alternative to any ESPN take it or leave it offer. Essentially, it creates another bidder in the marketplace.

4) If you keep the price very low, the network would be on the basic tier of most cable systems and would likely have almost as many subscribers as ESPN. 80 million subscribers at 13 cents a month is over 10,4 million a month. Split evenly, thats about 125 million a year---or 25 million per G5 conference (roughly 2 million per school). Better yet, that mostly 2nd and 3rd tier inventory. It still leaves each conference with plenty of inventory to sell to traditional outlets. Add in 5 regional nets (like the Pac12 Network does) and a robust streaming option---and the G5 has all the quality exposure they need.

As the network gains traction and viewership, you can slowly bump up the rate to increase revenue while maintaining subscriber levels. At a still very reasonable 50 cents per subscriber the network would bring home 480 million a year---almost 100 million per G5. A G5 network could feasibly do that because the 65 G5 fanbases basicly have a nationwide footprint and (as a group) have as a fanbase thats as large or larger than most any P5 confernece. If you had each confernece sending 20 games to the network---its 100 game inventory is going to be hard for cable systems to ignore. Its low price means it probably gets added without facing much resistance.

So would this be in addition to another contract for the top tier games? For example, ECU home games vs ACC teams could still be on ESPN/ABC correct?

Yup. Each conference would have to spin off "X" number of games to G5 Network (mostly 3rd tier content). But I'd also make it where the network gets 7 weeks with first picks and 7 weeks with second picks (one for each week of the season) equally distributed over the 5 non-power conferences. That way, the network gets at least one decent game every week of the football season and not just all crap games. That would have little affect on the ability of each conference to sell off their normal first and second tier inventory packages. I'd also give the network 10 million to spend on better games. So, the G5 network would have 10 million dollars to bid on 1rst and 2nd tier rights packages offered by the G5 conferences. That 10 million would force low ballers and free rider networks to at least make a a reasonable bid for G5 content. That a secondary way of increasing the value of G5 content. The hope would be that advirtising revenue would largely cover production/operating costs and most of the subscriber fees would flow directly to the conferences as revenue.
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RE: Football-Indy Syndicate: Possible secession plan for MWC schools prior to 2020
I don't why MWC let thier network die, or no other conf bought it, like B-E
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(07-08-2017 09:00 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  David's idea of YSU on the ACC network......cant see that but I like the idea of G5 pooling recources on a conference network though or as part of the P5s.

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Just like all those buggy and horse-drawn wagon makers after the introduction of the automobile.

Seriously here... Put all the "g" conferences into a network that nobody wants or would watch. Brilliant!

And in other news, 5x0 still equals 0.
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There is no way to jerry rig the basic principle of interest in your product.

Internet streaming isn't some magical vehicle to make millions of people care about MWC football teams, who didn't before.
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