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(07-14-2017 11:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  What if Northern Michigan followed their conference mates into D1, and become a part of the MAC?

Just stop..... you're just embarrassing yourself now.
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And HERE is a map for the alternate history scenario I just presented. You like?
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(07-14-2017 11:51 AM)utpotts Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 11:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  What if Northern Michigan followed their conference mates into D1, and become a part of the MAC?

Just stop..... you're just embarrassing yourself now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associatio...s_football

Former members of this conference.

Youngstown State
Akron
Eastern Illinois
Northern Michigan
Western Illinois
Northern Iowa
Missouri State


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_North...tball_team

1975 D2 championship playoffs that Northern Michigan won their first national title.

Beat Central Michigan, Omaha, Youngstown State, Eastern Michigan, and Boise State.
Then they beat Western Kentucky in the final championship game.

All of their former conference mates and schools they beat in the D2 playoff are all in D1. They could be better than Eastern Michigan.
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(07-14-2017 03:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 11:51 AM)utpotts Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 11:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  What if Northern Michigan followed their conference mates into D1, and become a part of the MAC?

Just stop..... you're just embarrassing yourself now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associatio...s_football

Former members of this conference.

Youngstown State
Akron
Eastern Illinois
Northern Michigan
Western Illinois
Northern Iowa
Missouri State


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_North...tball_team

1975 D2 championship playoffs that Northern Michigan won their first national title.

Beat Central Michigan, Omaha, Youngstown State, Eastern Michigan, and Boise State.
Then they beat Western Kentucky in the final championship game.

All of their former conference mates and schools they beat in the D2 playoff are all in D1. They could be better than Eastern Michigan.


Do you even know where Northern Michigan is???

No one cares about what happened in D2 in 1975 it has zero corolation on what is happening today. Zero, none.

It's as ridiculous as you saying Dayton will have an FBS program or Ferris State should make FBS.

Just stop talking about the MAC, you embarrass yourself every time.
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(07-13-2017 12:46 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  New alternate history scenario! The earliest differences from our timeline are the Big Ten's rejection of Penn State for membership in 1990 and Notre Dame's TV deal not panning out. This leads the Irish to join the Big Ten, while Penn State creates a new eastern conference that prevents the addition of football to the Big East.

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  • Big Ten rejects Penn State; accepts Notre Dame
  • Penn State founds Eastern Athletic Conference (EAC) with 11 other football independents, including 3 football-only affiliates from Big East (BC, Pitt, Syracuse)
  • SEC adds Arkansas from SWC and independent South Carolina
  • Colorado accepts Pac-10 invite; BYU added to Pac-10 as football-only affiliate (non-football remains in WAC); Pac-10 becomes Pacific Athletic Conference (PAC)
  • Big 12 forms as in OTL except without Colorado; Houston is added to make 12
  • SWC left with only 3 members (Rice, SMU, TCU); adds La Tech from Big West, Tulsa from MVC, I-AA indy UAB, and 4 I-A indies (ECU, Memphis, Tulane, USM), but conference is effectively no longer a power
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I-A 1996[/B] (* = football-only affiliate)

ACC:[/B] Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, NC State, North Carolina, Virginia, Wake Forest

Big 12[/B]
Central:[/B] Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M
Plains:[/B] Baylor, Houston, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech
Protected crossover: Texas/Oklahoma

Big Ten:[/B] Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin

EAC[/B]
North:[/B] Boston College*, Penn State, Pittsburgh*, Rutgers, Syracuse*, Temple
South:[/B] Cincinnati, Florida State, Louisville, Miami (FL), Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Protected crossover: Pittsburgh/West Virginia

PAC[/B]
North:[/B] California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State
South:[/B] Arizona, Arizona State, BYU*, Colorado, UCLA, USC
Protected crossovers: California/UCLA, California/USC, Stanford/UCLA, Stanford/USC

SEC[/B]
Eastern:[/B] Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Western:[/B] Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
Protected crossovers: same as in OTL

Big West:[/B] Arkansas State, Boise State, Idaho, NE Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico State, North Texas, Northern Illinois, SW Louisiana, Utah State

MAC:[/B] Akron, Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio, Toledo, Western Michigan

SWC:[/B] East Carolina, Louisiana Tech, Memphis, Rice, SMU, Southern Miss, TCU, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB

WAC:[/B] Air Force, Colorado State, Fresno State, Hawaii, New Mexico, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming

Ind:[/B] Army, Navy

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  • MAC adds NIU from Big West and Marshall from I-AA SoCon to reach 12 schools
  • SWC adds independents UCF and USF to reach 12 schools
  • WAC adds Boise State from Big West to reach 12 football schools
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I-A 2010[/B]

Power conferences same as in 1996[/B]

Big West:[/B] Arkansas State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Nevada, New Mexico State, North Texas, Utah State

MAC[/B]
East:[/B] Akron, Bowling Green, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio, Toledo
West:[/B] Ball State, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Marshall, Northern Illinois, Western Michigan

SWC[/B]
East:[/B] Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Southern Miss, UAB
West:[/B] Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico State, North Texas, Rice, Utah State

WAC[/B]
Mountain:[/B] Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Pacific:[/B] Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV

Ind:[/B] Army, Connecticut, Navy

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  • Oklahoma and Oklahoma State leave Big 12 for SEC
  • Houston, Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech leave Big 12 for PAC
  • Kansas, Nebraska, and Missouri leave Big 12 for Big Ten
  • SEC adds NC State from ACC and West Virginia from EAC
  • Pittsburgh and Syracuse leave EAC/Big East to join Big Ten; Big Ten becomes Big 16
  • UConn leaves Big East and football independence to join EAC as full member; BC transfers non-football sports from Big East to EAC to become full member
  • Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Maryland leave ACC for EAC
  • With no other desirable options, Duke, UNC, and UVA also accept EAC's invite; ACC dissolves, leaving WF floating in the wind
  • Big 12 left with only 3 members (Baylor, ISU, KSU); adds WF from defunct ACC and 8 others from SWC (ECU, Memphis, SMU, TCU, Tulane, Tulsa, UCF, USF), but conference is effectively no longer a power
  • SWC left with only 4 members (La Tech, Rice, UAB, USM); adds 8 schools from Big West (Arkansas State, Idaho, Nevada, NMSU, ULL, ULM, UNT, USU); with no remaining football schools, Big West drops the sport
  • Army and Navy football programs drop down to I-AA Patriot
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I-A 2014[/B] (* = football-only affiliate)

Big 16[/B]
East:[/B] Indiana, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
North:[/B] Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Purdue
South:[/B] Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska
West:[/B] Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Protected crossovers: Illinois/Northwestern, Indiana/Purdue, Michigan/Ohio State, Notre Dame/Pittsburgh

EAC[/B]
East:[/B] Maryland, Temple, Virginia, Virginia Tech
North:[/B] Boston College, Connecticut, Penn State, Rutgers
South:[/B] Duke, Florida State, Miami (FL), North Carolina
West:[/B] Cincinnati, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Louisville
Protected crossovers: North Carolina/Virginia, Penn State/Temple

PAC[/B]
East:[/B] Houston, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
North:[/B] Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
South:[/B] Arizona, Arizona State, BYU*, Colorado
West:[/B] California, Stanford, UCLA, USC

SEC[/B]
East:[/B] Florida, Georgia, NC State, South Carolina
North:[/B] Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia
South:[/B] Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
West:[/B] Arkansas, LSU, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma
Protected crossovers: Alabama/Tennessee, Auburn/Georgia

Big 12[/B]
East:[/B] Central Florida, East Carolina, Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Wake Forest
West:[/B] Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State, SMU, TCU, Tulsa

MAC[/B]
East:[/B] Akron, Bowling Green, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio, Toledo
West:[/B] Ball State, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Marshall, Northern Illinois, Western Michigan

SWC[/B]
East:[/B] Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, Louisiana-Monroe, Southern Miss, UAB
West:[/B] Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico State, North Texas, Rice, Utah State

WAC[/B]
Mountain:[/B] Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Pacific:[/B] Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State, UNLV

Notable annual out-of-conference matchups: Air Force/Army, Air Force/Navy, BYU/Utah, Cincinnati/Ohio State, Clemson/South Carolina, Colorado/Colorado State, Duke/Wake Forest, Florida/Florida State, Georgia/Georgia Tech, Iowa/Iowa State, Kansas/Kansas State, Kentucky/Louisville, NC State/North Carolina, Notre Dame/Navy, Notre Dame/USC, Oklahoma/Texas, Penn State/Pittsburgh

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Copy-pasta:

Each of the 16-team power conferences consists of four 4-team "pods," which alternate between two 8-team divisions every two years. For two years it's the "Northeast" and "Southwest" Divisions, and for the next two it's the "Northwest" and "Southeast" Divisions.

The P4 conference schedule is 9 games across the board. For two years, each team plays a home-and-home against the 3 teams in its pod, the 4 other teams in its division, and 2 teams from the "opposite" pod (i.e., North vs. South, East vs. West). For the next two years, each team plays a home-and-home against the 3 teams in its pod again, the 4 other teams in its division (this time it's a different pod of 4), and the other 2 teams from the opposite pod. This way, with the exception of protected crossovers, each team plays every other team in its conference twice in 4 years. The G4 conference schedules are all 8 games to permit more play of P4 teams.

Conference championships proceed between the two divisions as they do currently. The "College Football Playoff," or whatever it may be called in this timeline, becomes a de facto (if not de jure) competition between the champions of the P4 conferences, with the G4 conferences getting their hush money.

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You may note that, like the previous scenarios I put forth, this timeline ends with a 4x16 power conference alignment. This alignment, or at least having an even and equal number of teams in each conference, is a common theme in many scenarios I've come up with. I see this balance as the pinnacle of college football realignment.

So what do you think? Plausible?

BYU to the PAC breaks the readers suspension of disbelief
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(07-14-2017 05:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  BYU to the PAC breaks the readers suspension of disbelief

I was worried about that. But even as a football-only affiliate to balance out the addition of Colorado?
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