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RE: Alternate History College Sports Realignment Scenarios
A conference-hybrid on the scale of the original Big East will arguably never happen again, but I still think it could have succeeded with the eight non-football members it had at its conclusion (DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. Johns and Villanova), as well as twelve full members (Boston College, Cincinnati, UConn, ECU, Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, Virginia Tech, West Virginia).
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Here's an alternate "Super" Big East of today wherein PSU and FSU joined early on rather than going to the Big Ten and ACC, respectively.

Big East
Football (North): Boston College, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn
Football (South): Florida State, Miami, Temple (FB only), Villanova, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Non-football: Georgetown, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's
09-13-2017 09:36 AM
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(09-13-2017 09:36 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an alternate "Super" Big East of today wherein PSU and FSU joined early on rather than going to the Big Ten and ACC, respectively.

Big East
Football (North): Boston College, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn
Football (South): Florida State, Miami, Temple (FB only), Villanova, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Non-football: Georgetown, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's

"Super" football conference and Villanova just don't sound right together.
Please try again.
09-13-2017 11:43 AM
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(09-13-2017 11:43 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 09:36 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an alternate "Super" Big East of today wherein PSU and FSU joined early on rather than going to the Big Ten and ACC, respectively.

Big East
Football (North): Boston College, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn
Football (South): Florida State, Miami, Temple (FB only), Villanova, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Non-football: Georgetown, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's

"Super" football conference and Villanova just don't sound right together.
Please try again.

"Super" is more for the size than the quality. As I recall, Villanova was doing pretty well in I-AA back when football was added to the Big East in our timeline.
09-13-2017 12:13 PM
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RE: Alternate History College Sports Realignment Scenarios
(09-13-2017 12:13 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 11:43 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 09:36 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an alternate "Super" Big East of today wherein PSU and FSU joined early on rather than going to the Big Ten and ACC, respectively.

Big East
Football (North): Boston College, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn
Football (South): Florida State, Miami, Temple (FB only), Villanova, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Non-football: Georgetown, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's

"Super" football conference and Villanova just don't sound right together.
Please try again.

"Super" is more for the size than the quality. As I recall, Villanova was doing pretty well in I-AA back when football was added to the Big East in our timeline.

If Villanova went I-A 25 years ago, they would easily be a power school in the ACC or B1G. They are not AAU but rank very high academically.
09-13-2017 12:20 PM
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(09-13-2017 12:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  If Villanova went I-A 25 years ago, they would easily be a power school in the ACC or B1G. They are not AAU but rank very high academically.

They went from #1 Regional (East) in USNWR to #50 National University. That's...impressive.
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(09-13-2017 02:26 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 12:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  If Villanova went I-A 25 years ago, they would easily be a power school in the ACC or B1G. They are not AAU but rank very high academically.

They went from #1 Regional (East) in USNWR to #50 National University. That's...impressive.

It actually is. A regional university offers a master's at the highest (maybe a couple doctoral programs, but usually none.) A national university offers doctoral degrees and most national universities have been doing so for a while. So for Villanova to jump in from essentially zero doctoral programs to several or more and still be in the top 50 universities in the nation is impressive.
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