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RE: The American should abolish divisions.
(07-07-2017 09:10 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  SBNation came up with an alternative to the B1G



This would gut the MWC, consolidate the best of the rest (for the most part) and make a solid case for $10MM / year / school. Not to mention all but locking up the NY6 bid every year. The abolishment of divisions means the best teams will definitely meet in the championship game.

The two best teams have played in the American Championship Game both times.
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RE: The American should abolish divisions.
(07-07-2017 09:10 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  SBNation came up with an alternative to the B1G

I think the American should do this. Move to 16 teams, abolish divisions, have 9 conference games, hold the championship game between the two teams with the best records. All existing and budding rivalries could be saved, and every team would play every other team at least twice every 4 years (except for one outlier).

Here's my recommendations for alignments. Apologies to Tulsa, your rivalries don't really make sense.



Code:
UCF      | USF | ECU | Houston |
USF      | UCF | Cinci | UConn |
ECU      | UCF | Temple | Tulsa |
Tulane   | SMU | AFA | Navy |
Temple   | UConn | ECU | Tulsa |
UConn    | USF | Cinci | Temple |
Cinci    | USF | UConn | Memphis |
Memphis  | BYU | Houston | Cinci |
Houston  | Memphis | UCF | SMU |
Tulsa    | ECU | Temple | Boise |
SMU      | Tulane | Navy | Houston |
Navy     | AFA | SMU | Tulane |
BYU      | Boise | CSU | Memphis |
Boise    | BYU | CSU | Tulsa |
CSU      | AFA | BYU | Boise |
AFA      | Navy | Tulane | CSU |

Western adds would be FB only. From there we could decide to invite Olympic sports adds from a pool of maybe Dayton, VCU, and a few others, or stick to 12 in basketball.

This would gut the MWC, consolidate the best of the rest (for the most part) and make a solid case for $10MM / year / school. Not to mention all but locking up the NY6 bid every year. The abolishment of divisions means the best teams will definitely meet in the championship game.

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RE: The American should abolish divisions.
(07-07-2017 10:38 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 10:31 AM)YNot Wrote:  9 conference games is too many. You need more opportunities to play the P5 in the OOC games without shooting yourself in the foot by the extra conference game. That 9th conference game will give half the conference an extra loss than there might have been otherwise.

That's valid, except for the fact that most of our OOC games are tougher than our conference games.

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Maybe for a few, probably not for most. Here is USF's non-conf schedule this year:

at San Jose State (4-8)
Div I-AA STONYBROOK
ILLINOIS (3-9)
UMASS (2-10)

Basically any conf game would be tougher than all 4 of those games.
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(07-07-2017 03:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  So, the December 2012 story indicates that the Big East/AAC was trying to get to 15+ members, with Boise St. and SDSU - and Fresno and UNLV - on board. Tulane and ECU were set to join.

Tulsa didn't join until March 2013, about 3 months after Boise reversed course.

Funny, that Boise St. reversed its decision just two weeks after the Fresno/UNLV story.

I know Aresco has recently stated that expansion/realignment isn't really on the AAC's radar right now, but I assume the AAC is still willing to get to 16 members by adding 4 western schools...if the TV value is there.

If UC, UConn, and USF had known the C7 would split, they likely would have committed to a coast-to-coast conference:

“The current Big East football teams are getting antsy, and there are talks that Connecticut and Cincinnati are looking to start a new all-sports conference. Those two schools want to create a league that would span the United States, and include a few of the better Mountain West programs.”

https://www.mwcconnection.com/2012/12/14...conference
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RE: The American should abolish divisions.
(07-09-2017 06:35 PM)Underdog Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  So, the December 2012 story indicates that the Big East/AAC was trying to get to 15+ members, with Boise St. and SDSU - and Fresno and UNLV - on board. Tulane and ECU were set to join.

Tulsa didn't join until March 2013, about 3 months after Boise reversed course.

Funny, that Boise St. reversed its decision just two weeks after the Fresno/UNLV story.

I know Aresco has recently stated that expansion/realignment isn't really on the AAC's radar right now, but I assume the AAC is still willing to get to 16 members by adding 4 western schools...if the TV value is there.

If UC, UConn, and USF had known the C7 would split, they likely would have committed to a coast-to-coast conference:

“The current Big East football teams are getting antsy, and there are talks that Connecticut and Cincinnati are looking to start a new all-sports conference. Those two schools want to create a league that would span the United States, and include a few of the better Mountain West programs.”

https://www.mwcconnection.com/2012/12/14...conference

That article is from 2012. 04-jawdrop 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-drunk 03-zzz 03-nutkick 05-ban 04-chairshot 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead
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RE: The American should abolish divisions.
(07-09-2017 07:06 PM)panite Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 06:35 PM)Underdog Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  So, the December 2012 story indicates that the Big East/AAC was trying to get to 15+ members, with Boise St. and SDSU - and Fresno and UNLV - on board. Tulane and ECU were set to join.

Tulsa didn't join until March 2013, about 3 months after Boise reversed course.

Funny, that Boise St. reversed its decision just two weeks after the Fresno/UNLV story.

I know Aresco has recently stated that expansion/realignment isn't really on the AAC's radar right now, but I assume the AAC is still willing to get to 16 members by adding 4 western schools...if the TV value is there.

If UC, UConn, and USF had known the C7 would split, they likely would have committed to a coast-to-coast conference:

“The current Big East football teams are getting antsy, and there are talks that Connecticut and Cincinnati are looking to start a new all-sports conference. Those two schools want to create a league that would span the United States, and include a few of the better Mountain West programs.”

https://www.mwcconnection.com/2012/12/14...conference

That article is from 2012. 04-jawdrop 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-drunk 03-zzz 03-nutkick 05-ban 04-chairshot 03-banghead 03-banghead 03-banghead

That's the period of time that YNot and I are discussing panite…. Read the bold font above in YNot’s post.
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The American should abolish divisions.
(07-07-2017 10:23 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Current rules dont support that structure. In order to have a CCG you must do one of these two options---

Divide into TWO divisions and play a round robin within each division. Each division winner may then play in a CCG

OR

Play a round robin within the entire conference, where the top two finishers can then move on to a CCG

Basically, you have to play a round robin in the entire conference or a round robin within the divisions (and you are limited to just 2 divisions). In order to have a CCG with no divisions, the AAC would ahve to switch to an 11 game conference schedule. That aint going to happen.


Honestly I'm surprised a 12 team conference hasn't gone full round robin with the entire conference. Have an FCS as opening week tuneup and then make every game after worthwhile. The SEC when at 12 would've likely been the first conference to do it.


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The Civil ConFLiCT must be preserved. I vote "No". 04-cheers
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