(07-10-2017 02:36 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote: Paq won the fight. It might not have been a total blow out, but he won the fight. He landed a lot more punches, he almost ended the fight in the 9th with a TKO and he battered Horn's face. What more do you want?
I'll give Horn credit for being aggressive and not quitting after the 9th, but being aggressive doesn't get you points. You actually have to land punches, as Teddy Atlas pointed out.
I don't want to waste a minute arguing this . If you think Horn won the fight, you don't know boxing, at least not in my opinion. So there's nothing for the two of us to talk about.
You obviously (and others above) don't understand boxing if you think winners are determined by a person hurting another in a singular round. Or if you go by "compubox" numbers that are completely subjective and virtually impossible to rely upon. (Again, go to my previous post and count Horn's punches and see what compubox counted).
I have yet to hear the simple answer to this:
People with a neutral eye on the fight should be able to agree on two ideas:
1) Paq clearly won rounds 8 and 9.
2) Horn won 1, 6, 10, and 12.
That leaves rounds 2,3,4,5,7, and 11 as rounds that were all about 50/50 and no more than 55/45 either way--that is decent arguments could be made for one over the other, but giving the round to the other wouldn't be outlandish.
I saw Horn continuing his momentum from round 1 into round 2. I would have given 2 to Horn mostly because Horn continued to press the action he started in 1.
I would have also given 11 to Horn. Sort of for the same reason. He won 10 and continued what made him successful in 10 into round 11.
That is six rounds for Horn. I also could be swayed to see Horn picking up
any of 3,4,5, or 7. Wound't be outlandish. Grabbing any of those rounds AND giving Pac a 10-8 round in 9 would have made it 114-113 Horn. Which is not ridiculous. But neither would have been 115-113 Paq. I could have seen that too.
Boxing is judged on a round by round basis, not a cumulative "Oh I think this guy won because the other guy had a swollen eye." And that's what I keep hearing from the folks that say how much they "know" about boxing.