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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
In the HERD research list Ohio U clusters with these schools (all Carnegie R2 like Ohio U, all with R&D budgets of $45-60M)

Alabama-Huntsville, SUNY Binghamton, Maine. Texas-Arlington, Louisiana Lafayette, UMass Lowell, UMBC, ODU, North Dakota, UWM, William & Mary, Ohio U, Montana, Wichita State, Akron, South Dakota State, Cleveland State, SIU-Carbondale, Wyoming

Forbes lumps Ohio U roughly with this group of schools:
Oklahoma State, Georgia State, Montana State, Montana, New Mexico, San Diego State, Maine, Texas-Arlington, Rhode Island, Northern Arizona

It is similar rated but a bit easier to get into than Tennessee, UMBC, UCF, USF, Buffalo, Nebraska, Auburn, UAB

The schools Ohio lists as peers on their fact sheet seem to be "aspirational" rather than true peers:

Colorado State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Oregon State, Missouri, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Utah, West Virginia

These are schools with between 3x and 10x the level of research going on at campus, and includes two AAU schools, and includes 6 flagships which Ohio U is not. Excepting OK State and UNH and RIU they are all R1 schools.

Honestly I can understand OK State, West Virginia, UNH as aspirations. I would suggest Idaho, San Diego State and Georgia State as more realistic peers however. Schools in the middle level tend to list the schools they aspire to be their peers, not their true peers. The best way to look at it is, do the schools you list as peers consider your school a peer? If the answer is no, that they see you as farther down the pecking order, then you list is less truthful than aspirational.
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
ECU

1) SEC: The ACC stays while and the SEC must get into the 10 million + populated state of Nort Carolina. Then they go for ECU who has 30,000+ students and a large football fan base.

2) American: Nothing happens and we stay where we are

3) Big 12/American: If more realignment occurs and we get left out we are probably going to be in a conference mixed with Big 12 and American leftovers plus a couple of other schools.

4) ACC: The Big Ten or SEC or both raid the ACC North Carolina schools leaving the ACC to back fill its home state with ECU. If this happened the ACC would probably look like the former Big East in football.
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
(07-01-2017 03:39 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  ECU

1) SEC: The ACC stays while and the SEC must get into the 10 million + populated state of Nort Carolina. Then they go for ECU who has 30,000+ students and a large football fan base.

2) American: Nothing happens and we stay where we are

3) Big 12/American: If more realignment occurs and we get left out we are probably going to be in a conference mixed with Big 12 and American leftovers plus a couple of other schools.

4) ACC: The Big Ten or SEC or both raid the ACC North Carolina schools leaving the ACC to back fill its home state with ECU. If this happened the ACC would probably look like the former Big East in football.

The ACC will never take the ECU. The ACC 2.0 is half ACC and half Big East. Neither of those two wanted us. They are a basketball conference anyway. SEC or Indy if this AAC arrangement falls apart.
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
why we talking research, endowments, land grants, flagship, peer.
who the hell cares
I tought this was about FOOTBALL & little bit of basketball
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
Siena is doing fine in the MAAC and should mainly focus on winning more of the important games (last year's conference championship game loss was a heartbreaker), but many fans would hope the school would be ready to backfill any openings in the A-10. The men's basketball program already plays sister school St. Bonaventure annually and regularly schedules other A-10 programs. The team had just come off a bad couple years and fired their coach when the A-10 added Davidson. So I like to keep an eye on whether any of these conference realignment dominoes will ever touch the A-10 again.
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
Temple ends up in the B-12
it does not matter how dump the B-12 is, the ony thing that saves the B-12, expand to 18 schools
LHN becomes quesa B-12 network, TV Market jumps to 90 million like the B-10
if Tex does not start making connections with northeast & middle america, the'll be run over by Mexican's
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
* Toledo Rockets
Option 1) The Mid-American Conference
Option 2) see option 1

* Lamar Cardinals
Option 1) Southland Conference
Option 2) Sun Belt Conference with a whole bunch of realignment dominoes
Option 3) see option 1
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(07-01-2017 12:23 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  I challenge davidst to list all the schools in the conferences listed above! 03-lmfao
not really
He already has several times

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(07-01-2017 03:54 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 03:39 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  ECU

1) SEC: The ACC stays while and the SEC must get into the 10 million + populated state of Nort Carolina. Then they go for ECU who has 30,000+ students and a large football fan base.

2) American: Nothing happens and we stay where we are

3) Big 12/American: If more realignment occurs and we get left out we are probably going to be in a conference mixed with Big 12 and American leftovers plus a couple of other schools.

4) ACC: The Big Ten or SEC or both raid the ACC North Carolina schools leaving the ACC to back fill its home state with ECU. If this happened the ACC would probably look like the former Big East in football.

The ACC will never take the ECU. The ACC 2.0 is half ACC and half Big East. Neither of those two wanted us. They are a basketball conference anyway. SEC or Indy if this AAC arrangement falls apart.

If the ACC is raided and left with: BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Wake Forest, Clemson, GT, Miami, FSU, and Louisville I bet ECU gets invite along with Cincinnati, Temple, UCF, West Virginia, USF, and UConn.
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RE: What are your schools realignment options?
Missouri State
1) MVC
2) Sun Belt
3) Conference USA
4) MAC
5) AAC - long range
6) Big 12 - longer range
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