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RE: Projected Men's Basketball Finish
That's the UTEP way - completely tank the OOC schedule to be at the bottom of the conference and bring conference rpi down, then suddenly give a crap as soon as conference play begins and get a lot of wins, which brings the conference rpi down even more. Seems good
06-30-2017 09:42 AM
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RE: Projected Men's Basketball Finish
(06-30-2017 08:18 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 06:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 11:04 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 03:15 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  1. MT I know it looks like a homer pick but I think we will repeat again this season. We will, however, lose more than one conference game. Brandon Walters will be huge for us this season and so will Nick King. Giddy Potts will have his best season this year. Kermit's tough defensive playing teams continue to stifle the conference It will be tougher this season but we will come out on top

2. UAB UAB will be in the mix to the very end. Nick Norton will return to shore up the PG duties and it will be Cokley and Lee's final season so they should be better. Eshan will have another year under his belt.

3. Marshall Marshall will add a little more size to this year's team to go with Elmore which will make them more dangerous and not so one dimensional.

4. WKU Added a lot of "stars" to their roster but they will be young and not well coached. I'm not buying the hype this year for WKU, maybe next year.

5. ODU Will be a tough defensive team like MT but will still be plagued with very little offense. They loss several guys to graduation but our gaining a few good guys coming in. ODU reminds of Kermit Davis team's of the early 2000's. Tough defense but atrocious offense. Maybe Jeff will be able to turn things around like Kermit did.

6. La Tech Has a talented roster and should be able to play with anyone on a given night but will drop a few too many games to keep them in contention.

7. UTEP Loss a few guards to graduation but still have some big men.

8. North Texas Should be much improved in the post Benford era.

9. Charlotte Mark Price needs to get things rolling at Charlotte

10. Rice Devastated by loss of players and coach, Starting from scratch again.

11. UTSA
12. Southern MIss
13. FIU
14. FAU

I think you have things generally right. There could be some shift in your top 4, but I think those are the right 4.

Giddy Potts will make MTSU a contender. A talented 4 year point guard is so huge. One with the experience he has is downright rare. The frog added a nice transfer or two to go with his returning players. A brutal non-conference schedule will prepare them.

The sheer quantity and quality of talent that WKU has added is unbelievable. Uncharted waters and hard to say how good we will be but I am fairly certain we will be better than last year. I've seen Mitchell Robinson play. He is raw, but he is a special, special talent. He threw down a behind the back slam dunk that is maybe the best in game dunk I have ever seen. Oh and he shoots threes pretty well too. Beardon is probably the most important add. A former 4 star point guard that has actually led a division 1 team to the tournament. More talent, depth and athleticsm that we have had in a while.

Feels like Marshall and UAB have been building to this a little bit. I could see either actually winning it if MTSU's losses hurt them more than expected or if WKU does not quite gel this season.

Can't wait to tip off and see what happens.

Do you guys think Mitchell will be one and done? Seems to be the trend for the top basketball players.

He will almost be certainly one and done and I think we have a couple of other players who want to be one and done as well, jury will remain out on those players.

My order:

1. WKU-bumpy non conf. will finally get it going during conf. play and "out Talent" most of these teams in CUSA
2. ODU-regardless of scoring, defense will still have them a tough matchup most nights
3. La. Tech-any season I try to blow off La. Tech, they prove me wrong, expect no difference this season
4. UAB-PG back with some talent around him, but I am not impressed with your coach, maybe he learned from this past season?
5. Marshall-Not quite the offensive power they had last season but will still have talented players who can put the ball in the basket
6. MTSU-losing 2 players who carried team will be hard to overcome
7. UTEP-Always have the talent to do well but never seems to materialize
8. Southern Miss-Will be much improved this season I feel
9. Charlotte-losing to many transfer under Price, might be a rough season for them
10. UTSA-Steve Henson has at least given Roadrunners a pulse
11. North Texas-big question mark here
12. Rice-lost more than any of us, complete redo
13. FIU and FAU-norm

Complete homer pick
06-30-2017 09:49 AM
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RE: Projected Men's Basketball Finish
(06-30-2017 09:49 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 08:18 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 06:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 11:04 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 03:15 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  1. MT I know it looks like a homer pick but I think we will repeat again this season. We will, however, lose more than one conference game. Brandon Walters will be huge for us this season and so will Nick King. Giddy Potts will have his best season this year. Kermit's tough defensive playing teams continue to stifle the conference It will be tougher this season but we will come out on top

2. UAB UAB will be in the mix to the very end. Nick Norton will return to shore up the PG duties and it will be Cokley and Lee's final season so they should be better. Eshan will have another year under his belt.

3. Marshall Marshall will add a little more size to this year's team to go with Elmore which will make them more dangerous and not so one dimensional.

4. WKU Added a lot of "stars" to their roster but they will be young and not well coached. I'm not buying the hype this year for WKU, maybe next year.

5. ODU Will be a tough defensive team like MT but will still be plagued with very little offense. They loss several guys to graduation but our gaining a few good guys coming in. ODU reminds of Kermit Davis team's of the early 2000's. Tough defense but atrocious offense. Maybe Jeff will be able to turn things around like Kermit did.

6. La Tech Has a talented roster and should be able to play with anyone on a given night but will drop a few too many games to keep them in contention.

7. UTEP Loss a few guards to graduation but still have some big men.

8. North Texas Should be much improved in the post Benford era.

9. Charlotte Mark Price needs to get things rolling at Charlotte

10. Rice Devastated by loss of players and coach, Starting from scratch again.

11. UTSA
12. Southern MIss
13. FIU
14. FAU

I think you have things generally right. There could be some shift in your top 4, but I think those are the right 4.

Giddy Potts will make MTSU a contender. A talented 4 year point guard is so huge. One with the experience he has is downright rare. The frog added a nice transfer or two to go with his returning players. A brutal non-conference schedule will prepare them.

The sheer quantity and quality of talent that WKU has added is unbelievable. Uncharted waters and hard to say how good we will be but I am fairly certain we will be better than last year. I've seen Mitchell Robinson play. He is raw, but he is a special, special talent. He threw down a behind the back slam dunk that is maybe the best in game dunk I have ever seen. Oh and he shoots threes pretty well too. Beardon is probably the most important add. A former 4 star point guard that has actually led a division 1 team to the tournament. More talent, depth and athleticsm that we have had in a while.

Feels like Marshall and UAB have been building to this a little bit. I could see either actually winning it if MTSU's losses hurt them more than expected or if WKU does not quite gel this season.

Can't wait to tip off and see what happens.

Do you guys think Mitchell will be one and done? Seems to be the trend for the top basketball players.

He will almost be certainly one and done and I think we have a couple of other players who want to be one and done as well, jury will remain out on those players.

My order:

1. WKU-bumpy non conf. will finally get it going during conf. play and "out Talent" most of these teams in CUSA
2. ODU-regardless of scoring, defense will still have them a tough matchup most nights
3. La. Tech-any season I try to blow off La. Tech, they prove me wrong, expect no difference this season
4. UAB-PG back with some talent around him, but I am not impressed with your coach, maybe he learned from this past season?
5. Marshall-Not quite the offensive power they had last season but will still have talented players who can put the ball in the basket
6. MTSU-losing 2 players who carried team will be hard to overcome
7. UTEP-Always have the talent to do well but never seems to materialize
8. Southern Miss-Will be much improved this season I feel
9. Charlotte-losing to many transfer under Price, might be a rough season for them
10. UTSA-Steve Henson has at least given Roadrunners a pulse
11. North Texas-big question mark here
12. Rice-lost more than any of us, complete redo
13. FIU and FAU-norm

Complete homer pick

Trying to keep pace with MTSU fans...
06-30-2017 09:51 AM
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(06-30-2017 08:36 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  MT has never picked to win C-USA. I'd like to keep it that way.

1. Western Kent. and Tony Mitchell

2. The Rest of us

We will not be the second coming of the Fighting Tony Mitchells. I've watched this kid, Mitchell Robinson play and his motor is far higher than Tony Mitchell's was.

We all like to kid about TM but that kid could have been a stud in the NBA. He just didn't have a great head on his shoulders. I don't think he loved the game very much either. Just never saw fire out of him. His skill set was top notch. UNT had some other studs in that recruiting class as well. Their hire of Benford proves what WKUYG always says about we're all one hire away from bad. Doesn't matter if it's hoops or football or baseball.

No way I predict us number 1 just due to so many new faces. And we don't really have a clue right now how this roster shakes out by game time. The guys Stans signed have a higher pedigree than anyone we've signed in my lifetime and that includes the Clem Haskins group that had Kannard Johnson, Tellis Frank and Clarence Martin the previous year. Those guys turned out STUDS but they weren't rated near as high as this group. Kannard was a Top 25 recruit maybe. Tellis was a 3 star at best when he got here and became POY in the Sun Belt.

It'll be fun to watch athletes on the level of Mitchell Robinson. He's a better pure athlete than your boy Jacorey was and he was a stud. He won't be the player Jacorey was simply because JW was a fifth year senior. MR is a high school kid. He will go in the lottery. Josh Anderson is a top 50 recruit. Phenomenal wing athlete out of the Pelican State. Everyone knows MR. Watch out for young Mr. Anderson.

The staff is as high on Diagne as they are MR. Another phenomenal athlete down low.

We may not win it all but we should be exciting to watch. Stans throttles teams down in my opinion on offense so we won't be the Runnin' Rebs. But there should be some high flying antics.
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(06-30-2017 09:42 AM)odu09 Wrote:  That's the UTEP way - completely tank the OOC schedule to be at the bottom of the conference and bring conference rpi down, then suddenly give a crap as soon as conference play begins and get a lot of wins, which brings the conference rpi down even more. Seems good

It happened one time and yet half of the league finished with an RPI worse than UTEP. Through our 12 year history in C-USA only twice have we finished in the bottom half.
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(06-30-2017 08:18 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  9. Charlotte-losing to many transfer under Price, might be a rough season for them

Charlotte may end up #9 in the league, but it will not be because of these transfers. We lost three players and combined they accounted for 8.9 points and 3.7 rebounds per game--and two of them are seven-footers.

We will be a better team this year.
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(06-29-2017 03:15 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  1. MT I know it looks like a homer pick but I think we will repeat again this season. We will, however, lose more than one conference game. Brandon Walters will be huge for us this season and so will Nick King. Giddy Potts will have his best season this year. Kermit's tough defensive playing teams continue to stifle the conference It will be tougher this season but we will come out on top

2. UAB UAB will be in the mix to the very end. Nick Norton will return to shore up the PG duties and it will be Cokley and Lee's final season so they should be better. Eshan will have another year under his belt.

3. Marshall Marshall will add a little more size to this year's team to go with Elmore which will make them more dangerous and not so one dimensional.

4. WKU Added a lot of "stars" to their roster but they will be young and not well coached. I'm not buying the hype this year for WKU, maybe next year.

5. ODU Will be a tough defensive team like MT but will still be plagued with very little offense. They loss several guys to graduation but our gaining a few good guys coming in. ODU reminds of Kermit Davis team's of the early 2000's. Tough defense but atrocious offense. Maybe Jeff will be able to turn things around like Kermit did.

6. La Tech Has a talented roster and should be able to play with anyone on a given night but will drop a few too many games to keep them in contention.

7. UTEP Loss a few guards to graduation but still have some big men.

8. North Texas Should be much improved in the post Benford era.

9. Charlotte Mark Price needs to get things rolling at Charlotte

10. Rice Devastated by loss of players and coach, Starting from scratch again.

11. UTSA
12. Southern MIss
13. FIU
14. FAU

I mean, ODU only loses Taylor and Baker to graduation.......

BUt, they did lose Talley to 3 strikes and your out and McClinton to an ACL tear.
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I'm working on tallying up the votes now to see what our composite looks like. If you want to participate, put up a list.
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CUSA bbs composite rankings. Edits include polls posted after this.

Voters: MT Fan, HerdZoned, odu09, WKUFan518, mturn017, ODUi

If you want to join in simply post your full list and I will add it to the tally. I'm also going to do this at the beginning of the year since the boards will be more active then.

Numbers in parenthesis indicates number of first place votes.

1. UAB 78 (2)
2. WKU 76 (3)
3. Mars 71
4. MTSU 68 (1)
5. ODU 63
6. LT 58
7. UTEP 46
8. Char 41
9. UTSA 30
10. NT 29
11. USM 29
12. Rice 23
13. FIU 11
14. FAU 7
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1. UAB
2. WKU
3. MARSHALL
4. MT
5. ODU
6. LT
7. UTEP
8. CHARLOTTE
9. USM
10. UTSA
11. UNT
12. RICE
13. FAU
14. FIU
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