(06-30-2017 03:45 PM)CharmCityTiger Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 11:13 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 11:09 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  The real issue is going to be the gap between football. It will provide a lot of spending money there and the SEC usually spends it. I hate it for FSU, Clemson and VT. Those are schools that are going to find it hard to keep up without hurting the other sports.

This is EXACTLY what those schools will have to do: become essentially one-sport schools (Clemson is nearly there now).

How is Clemson a one-sport school?

I think he is saying Clemson is focused on football being the top priority. The gap between that and second is pretty large.

(06-30-2017 05:21 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 03:45 PM)CharmCityTiger Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 11:13 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 11:09 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  The real issue is going to be the gap between football. It will provide a lot of spending money there and the SEC usually spends it. I hate it for FSU, Clemson and VT. Those are schools that are going to find it hard to keep up without hurting the other sports.

This is EXACTLY what those schools will have to do: become essentially one-sport schools (Clemson is nearly there now).

How is Clemson a one-sport school?

I think he is saying Clemson is focused on football being the top priority. The gap between that and second is pretty large.

Right. Clemson is definitely focused on football.
BTW, good job on that!

(06-29-2017 02:19 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:41 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  My theory is that double bacon cheeseburgers don't need any help.

FALSE.

You are forgetting about fries, BBQ sauce, and your beverage of choice!

Get your Heinz off the table and put some French's or Hunts on instead.

The fries aren't seasoned.

Why the hell is a garden on my slab of meat?

Why is there BBQ sauce when BBQ is clearly not being served?

Hunts?! As in Hunts ketchup?!

What are we, barbarians? What else are you going to demand, RC Cola?

(06-30-2017 08:15 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 02:19 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:41 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  My theory is that double bacon cheeseburgers don't need any help.

FALSE.

You are forgetting about fries, BBQ sauce, and your beverage of choice!

Get your Heinz off the table and put some French's or Hunts on instead.

The fries aren't seasoned.

Why the hell is a garden on my slab of meat?

Why is there BBQ sauce when BBQ is clearly not being served?

Hunts?! As in Hunts ketchup?!

What are we, barbarians? What else are you going to demand, RC Cola?

Do NOT lump RC Cola in the same category as Hunts!

(06-30-2017 08:15 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  What are we, barbarians? What else are you going to demand, RC Cola?

And a moon pie.

(06-30-2017 08:15 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 02:19 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 01:41 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  My theory is that double bacon cheeseburgers don't need any help.

FALSE.

You are forgetting about fries, BBQ sauce, and your beverage of choice!

Get your Heinz off the table and put some French's or Hunts on instead.

The fries aren't seasoned.

Why the hell is a garden on my slab of meat?

Why is there BBQ sauce when BBQ is clearly not being served?

Hunts?! As in Hunts ketchup?!

What are we, barbarians? What else are you going to demand, RC Cola?

What's wrong with RC? It's not as solidly ACC as Pepsi or Coca-Cola or Cheerwine, but I thought it was all about expanding the footprint these days. I've even read rumors on the internet that we might expand into Dr. Pepper and Big Red territory (both of which will have to take a back seat to Cheerwine as reddish oddly flavored but not unpleasant colas if that ever happens).

And I think the little prep bowl at the bottom of the plate might be full of Hunt's ketchup, or at least something close enough. I don't use ketchup enough to identify what kind of ketchup it is.

(06-29-2017 09:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:02 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 08:02 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 02:46 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 02:19 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Get your Heinz off the table and put some French's or Hunts on instead.

The fries aren't seasoned.

Why the hell is a garden on my slab of meat?

Why is there BBQ sauce when BBQ is clearly not being served?

Hunts isn't fit for human consumption. It's the stuff that they give terrorists to make them talk.

Good call.

To technically make it a salad. #Healthy

I assume that the BBQ was cropped out, just to the right.

Keep your ketchup, put that BBQ sauce on there. (Mustard base here of course)

Dump the barbecue sauce and the ketchup. The only thing you need is some Tabasco sauce. Tabasco is what makes the world go round.

Hold the barf lava and go heavy on Franks. It's like Tabasco, only it doesn't taste terrible. It's actually quite good.

I love Franks! It's great on chicken. I always have a big bottle in the fridge. But Tabasco is meant for everything else!

(06-30-2017 09:23 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:02 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 08:02 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 02:46 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  Hunts isn't fit for human consumption. It's the stuff that they give terrorists to make them talk.

Good call.

To technically make it a salad. #Healthy

I assume that the BBQ was cropped out, just to the right.

Keep your ketchup, put that BBQ sauce on there. (Mustard base here of course)

Dump the barbecue sauce and the ketchup. The only thing you need is some Tabasco sauce. Tabasco is what makes the world go round.

Hold the barf lava and go heavy on Franks. It's like Tabasco, only it doesn't taste terrible. It's actually quite good.

I love Franks! It's great on chicken. I always have a big bottle in the fridge. But Tabasco is meant for everything else!

Everything else besides barbecue. Texas Pete is to barbecue as Frank's is to Buffalo wings. I have all three in my fridge.

(06-30-2017 09:37 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 09:23 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:02 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 08:02 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Keep your ketchup, put that BBQ sauce on there. (Mustard base here of course)

Dump the barbecue sauce and the ketchup. The only thing you need is some Tabasco sauce. Tabasco is what makes the world go round.

Hold the barf lava and go heavy on Franks. It's like Tabasco, only it doesn't taste terrible. It's actually quite good.

I love Franks! It's great on chicken. I always have a big bottle in the fridge. But Tabasco is meant for everything else!

Everything else besides barbecue. Texas Pete is to barbecue as Frank's is to Buffalo wings. I have all three in my fridge.

I firmly believe that Franks is meant for food, and the others are meant to repel rodents.

(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 09:37 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(06-30-2017 09:23 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:43 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 09:02 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Dump the barbecue sauce and the ketchup. The only thing you need is some Tabasco sauce. Tabasco is what makes the world go round.

Hold the barf lava and go heavy on Franks. It's like Tabasco, only it doesn't taste terrible. It's actually quite good.

I love Franks! It's great on chicken. I always have a big bottle in the fridge. But Tabasco is meant for everything else!

Everything else besides barbecue. Texas Pete is to barbecue as Frank's is to Buffalo wings. I have all three in my fridge.

I firmly believe that Franks is meant for food, and the others are meant to repel rodents.

You should try barbecue sometime.

The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

I know plenty of Clemson graduates. They are generally very intelligent, practical people. None of them are wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth and wailing about how much more successful Clemson's 2016-17 football team would have been if they were in the Big 12.

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

To be fair we didn't have the SEC player of the year for that game. It was a completely different team without him. As for the revenue gap a lot of the schools here are okay with terrible football as long as they have good basketball. That's cool and all until Duke ends up like UCONN.

(07-01-2017 02:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

To be fair we didn't have the SEC player of the year for that game. It was a completely different team without him. As for the revenue gap a lot of the schools here are okay with terrible football as long as they have good basketball. That's cool and all until Duke ends up like UCONN.

I think you may have missed that Duke football has been quite respectable in recent years. And Duke doesn't have a revenue gap. The schools with a revenue gap lack strong donor support which isn't Duke's problem.

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I think this thread is a perfect example of you missing the point.

Endlessly complaining about absolutely everything doesn't fix anything, nobody in this forum has any real power, and being negative all the time is a miserable way to go through life.

(07-01-2017 02:43 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

To be fair we didn't have the SEC player of the year for that game. It was a completely different team without him. As for the revenue gap a lot of the schools here are okay with terrible football as long as they have good basketball. That's cool and all until Duke ends up like UCONN.

That guy was scary good, and Carolina had a great team. It would have been fun to watch them vs. UNC-Chapel Hill.

I don't think there are any ACC members that can be described as being "okay with terrible football," or for that matter any for which a few million dollars in media revenue would translate directly into better football teams. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that the ACC had the highest payout.

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

Sorry to double post, but I just noticed this. It may come as a surprise but most Duke basketball seasons end in a NCAA tournament loss (21 of the last 25, as a matter of fact) to some team or another. In football, did Clemson getting beat by a team (Pitt) that got beat by a team (UNC-CH) that lost to Duke have an effect? Was it caused by the revenue gap between Clemson and Duke?

Do you and your friends on Clemson's Board of Trustees honestly believe that Duke's loss to South Carolina in last year's NCAA tournament had something to do with a lack of resources on Duke's part, or a "revenue gap" between Duke's conference and Carolina's conference? Do they think that paying Coach K another $10 million or spending it on locker room fripperies (climbing walls, lazy river pools, smoothie machines) would have done the trick?

How do you or your Trustee friends explain UNC-Chapel Hill's basketball title or Clemson's football title?

If what you're saying about your friends on the BOT is true, it really sounds like Clemson needs to get better Trustees.

(07-01-2017 08:29 PM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 01:33 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:55 AM)opossum Wrote:  

(07-01-2017 12:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The way this thread has evolved is a perfect example of the dysfunction of this Godforsaken conference. You have the libertarian banner carrier proposing socialist policies, and the rest of the non-contenders arguing about food.

There should be a day each year where Clemson fans come together and burn James Barker in effigy based solely on him anchoring us to this lost cause of a conference and this very thread.

I don't think many Clemson alums would join that sad party.

Those of us arguing about food in this thread are taking the media reports about conference revenue distributions exactly as seriously as they deserve to be taken.

You don't know many Clemson alums then. I do, including a few on the BOT, and they are taking the revenue disparity seriously. They have said that it's going to take the SEC kicking you basketball school's ass a few times to make you take it serious. Being a Duke fan I would have thought that getting beat by a team that lost to Clemson in your precious basketball tournament would have an effect. Guess not.

As for Barker.....there's a reason he "suddenly" decided to retire.

Sorry to double post, but I just noticed this. It may come as a surprise but most Duke basketball seasons end in a NCAA tournament loss (21 of the last 25, as a matter of fact) to some team or another. In football, did Clemson getting beat by a team (Pitt) that got beat by a team (UNC-CH) that lost to Duke have an effect? Was it caused by the revenue gap between Clemson and Duke?

Do you and your friends on Clemson's Board of Trustees honestly believe that Duke's loss to South Carolina in last year's NCAA tournament had something to do with a lack of resources on Duke's part, or a "revenue gap" between Duke's conference and Carolina's conference? Do they think that paying Coach K another $10 million or spending it on locker room fripperies (climbing walls, lazy river pools, smoothie machines) would have done the trick?

How do you or your Trustee friends explain UNC-Chapel Hill's basketball title or Clemson's football title?

If what you're saying about your friends on the BOT is true, it really sounds like Clemson needs to get better Trustees.

The entire state of South Carolina has been mismanaged for the last several hundred years. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Its main bragging right is that it has such a history of mismanagement that the agencies of economic equilibrium are forcing it ever so slightly to the mean. Mean reversion is the equivalent of a political/economic participation trophy coupled w/ a long and storied history of bailouts and federal subsidies.

TLDR: I wouldn't count on Clemson's BOT changing.