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RE: All ECU Athletic programs told to cut budget by 10%, as Compher gets extension.
(07-06-2017 07:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(07-06-2017 02:43 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(07-03-2017 07:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(07-03-2017 01:00 PM)fanhood Wrote:  First, I showed you the third highest revenue generating team per the USA Today 2014-2015 Academic Year Calendar. Your highest rated team (per revenue) was UCONN, with the second and third being UC and UCF. Look at the link below, the AAC and MW are all bundled together.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

Furthermore, it appears that you are stating that your programs expenses (spending) far exceed the revenue they generate? Thats it? Well, you must not be in business, because if that is the case, your programs will eventually crumble. Enjoy.

My old boss and mentor would look at you and say "Cash Flow, and Profit. Don't understand? Look at the spread sheets."


Lets start on the things we agree on. I will use your source of information.

Now lets talk business. I went to a private university, you know one not suckinh off the teat of the state as you conservatives like to say. Its a real bonifide business with a long history of making it in the rough and tumble world of free markets. I worked in its athletic department, the smallest by far of any FBS playing school. Yet we spend and play with the big boys, why? Because its only one part of the business and its profitibility lags far behind its value. Its a freakin 1 to 3 hour free comercial for the school just to get started depending on the sport. So I think I'll look at the budget and not the revenue since that is a strong indicator of on field performance although not a guarantee.

So here are the results of who is trying to do what :

46) Uconn 72,000,000
53) san diego state 53,600,000
54) Cincinnati 51,700,000
55) ECU 49, 350, 000
56) UCF 47, 600,000
57) Hawaii 47,000,000
58) South Florida 46,850,000
59) Houston 45,400,000
60) UNLV 44,900,000
61) James Madison 44,800,000
62) Boise st 44,200,000
63) Air Force 43,400,000
64) Memphis 43,280,000
65) Old Dominiom 42,780,000
66) New Mexico 42,180,000
67) Fresno St 41,500,000
68) Colorado St 38,780,000
69) Army 37, 200,000
70) Umass 36,890,000
71) Akron 34,000,000
72) Eastern Michigan 33,950,000
73) Texas St 33,900,000
74) Wyoming 33,300,000
75) Western Michigan 33,250,000


91) San Jose St 28,470,000
92) Utah St 28,280,000
100) Nevada 27,000,000
113) Wichita St 25,100,000 (no football)


No records on Navy, BYU but what I could find

Us dept of education for 2013 BYU would put them right behind SDSU less than 50,000 diference.
(54) BYU 53, 500,000

According to the NAAA for Navy it was at 41,000,000

(68) Navy 41,000,000

So what does this tell us? 3 of the 12 MWC teams are below CUSA budgets and within touching distance of a AAC basketball only add.

Uconn is way out in front of everyone else and by far the highest spender not in the top 5 leagues.

The AAC has 6 in the top 60, the MWC has 3.

Uconn, Cincinnati, and ECU spend roughly 50,000,000 plus SDSU does as well.

UCF, South Florida, and Houston roughly spend 45-47,500,000
Hawaii and UNLV do too.

None of the football members drop below 40,000,000 for the AAC.

5 of the MWC teams spend 38 million or less.

Your emotions are irrelevant fanhood, the mwc is far behind the AAC and is within touching distance of AAC if we only played basketball.

This is the funniest post I have ever seen on this board. There you write 12 paragraphs making your point, yet the numbers show the AAC and MW intermingled. Classic.

Oh, and one word of advice. Don't assume I am a "fan of the MW." As you can see, my team is doing just fine. Only silly people like yourselves root for a conference. It's quite pathetic actually.

Be careful with your emotions. Something tells me this board has not fully recovered from Bowl Season. I suspect there will be a spillover in the 2017 season.


Intermingled? Do you mean that because I wrote them all out from 50-75?

Its clear your top three are would be up there with the AAC, everybody else isn't on the level.

Now perhaps you forgot what the statement was you were trying to disprove, that the MWC is lacking in budgets compared to the AAC. I dont think thats the case though. My guess is you looked up the numbers, realized you were wrong, and then cherry picked the 3 budgets that made your argument look legit.

Conviently leaving off three teams who are close to a MVC basketball only school.

Mmmmmm, you might want to look at the numbers a little closer. I only saw seven AAC teams on the list regarding revenue. Maybe there are more, but I am busy now. Nonetheless, the mean of the seven teams of the AAC (top 7) is 57.28. The Median is 58.The mean of the seven teams of the MWC (top 7) is 63.85, while the median is 66. Startling difference!

Again, emotions......

Anyway, have fun rooting for your conference. I'll enjoy another top 25 finish for SDSU.

Wow, James Madison is in the top 10 with an FCS program! Why aren't they FBS again? They have the money and are winning big to boot.
07-30-2017 09:53 AM
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Post: #102
RE: All ECU Athletic programs told to cut budget by 10%, as Compher gets extension.
(07-29-2017 07:43 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-06-2017 07:51 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(07-06-2017 02:43 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(07-03-2017 07:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Lets start on the things we agree on. I will use your source of information.

Now lets talk business. I went to a private university, you know one not suckinh off the teat of the state as you conservatives like to say. Its a real bonifide business with a long history of making it in the rough and tumble world of free markets. I worked in its athletic department, the smallest by far of any FBS playing school. Yet we spend and play with the big boys, why? Because its only one part of the business and its profitibility lags far behind its value. Its a freakin 1 to 3 hour free comercial for the school just to get started depending on the sport. So I think I'll look at the budget and not the revenue since that is a strong indicator of on field performance although not a guarantee.

So here are the results of who is trying to do what :

46) Uconn 72,000,000
53) san diego state 53,600,000
54) Cincinnati 51,700,000
55) ECU 49, 350, 000
56) UCF 47, 600,000
57) Hawaii 47,000,000
58) South Florida 46,850,000
59) Houston 45,400,000
60) UNLV 44,900,000
61) James Madison 44,800,000
62) Boise st 44,200,000
63) Air Force 43,400,000
64) Memphis 43,280,000
65) Old Dominiom 42,780,000
66) New Mexico 42,180,000
67) Fresno St 41,500,000
68) Colorado St 38,780,000
69) Army 37, 200,000
70) Umass 36,890,000
71) Akron 34,000,000
72) Eastern Michigan 33,950,000
73) Texas St 33,900,000
74) Wyoming 33,300,000
75) Western Michigan 33,250,000


91) San Jose St 28,470,000
92) Utah St 28,280,000
100) Nevada 27,000,000
113) Wichita St 25,100,000 (no football)


No records on Navy, BYU but what I could find

Us dept of education for 2013 BYU would put them right behind SDSU less than 50,000 diference.
(54) BYU 53, 500,000

According to the NAAA for Navy it was at 41,000,000

(68) Navy 41,000,000

So what does this tell us? 3 of the 12 MWC teams are below CUSA budgets and within touching distance of a AAC basketball only add.

Uconn is way out in front of everyone else and by far the highest spender not in the top 5 leagues.

The AAC has 6 in the top 60, the MWC has 3.

Uconn, Cincinnati, and ECU spend roughly 50,000,000 plus SDSU does as well.

UCF, South Florida, and Houston roughly spend 45-47,500,000
Hawaii and UNLV do too.

None of the football members drop below 40,000,000 for the AAC.

5 of the MWC teams spend 38 million or less.

Your emotions are irrelevant fanhood, the mwc is far behind the AAC and is within touching distance of AAC if we only played basketball.

This is the funniest post I have ever seen on this board. There you write 12 paragraphs making your point, yet the numbers show the AAC and MW intermingled. Classic.

Oh, and one word of advice. Don't assume I am a "fan of the MW." As you can see, my team is doing just fine. Only silly people like yourselves root for a conference. It's quite pathetic actually.

Be careful with your emotions. Something tells me this board has not fully recovered from Bowl Season. I suspect there will be a spillover in the 2017 season.


Intermingled? Do you mean that because I wrote them all out from 50-75?

Its clear your top three are would be up there with the AAC, everybody else isn't on the level.

Now perhaps you forgot what the statement was you were trying to disprove, that the MWC is lacking in budgets compared to the AAC. I dont think thats the case though. My guess is you looked up the numbers, realized you were wrong, and then cherry picked the 3 budgets that made your argument look legit.

Conviently leaving off three teams who are close to a MVC basketball only school.

Mmmmmm, you might want to look at the numbers a little closer. I only saw seven AAC teams on the list regarding revenue. Maybe there are more, but I am busy now. Nonetheless, the mean of the seven teams of the AAC (top 7) is 57.28. The Median is 58.The mean of the seven teams of the MWC (top 7) is 63.85, while the median is 66. Startling difference!

Again, emotions......

Anyway, have fun rooting for your conference. I'll enjoy another top 25 finish for SDSU.

I can't believe I missed this until it was linked in the Grading Aresco thread.
fanhood gonna fanhood.

This is either fanhood blatantly but inelegantly trolling, or fanhood actually doesn't understand middle school math. You don't take a sample of 12 and then drop the low five to find the mean or median of the top 58%. That's the opposite of how mean and median work, even if you are comparing samples of different sizes.
You could do a Central Mean dropping top and bottom outliers, but that really doesn't make sense for these sample sizes.

So the AAC n=8 -- Navy number is valid from Capital Gazette conversation with AD Chet Gladchuk in 2015.

AAC Mean $49, 647,500
AAC Median $46,125,000

mwc Mean $39,384,167
mwc Median $ 41,840,000

We don't have the AAC's four private schools' numbers, but if they're around Navy's (and no reason to think otherwise) we're STILL head and shoulders above the mwc. From the numbers we have - 25% higher on average.


Oh he knows what he is doing thats why I say fanhood going to fanhood and constantly bring context to his "facts" although i some how missed his last post in this thread.

If he didnt know what he was doing he would be all over the place, but his numbers continually come out in favor of the mwc. His bias is pretty blatant just in its form you dont even have to know how to "fact check" him. Its like a dictator who wins his "elections" by 85% plus every time. Instinctively you know thats just not possible.

Fanhood, the dictator of a third world country known as the mwc with budgets to match
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