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RE: Looking at 2023
ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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RE: Looking at 2023
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.
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RE: Looking at 2023
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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That's definitely possible! Baylor mayyy be left out for Houston or Cincinnati. I would also switch Boston College with Baylor (or Houston or Cincinnati) as Notre Dame would likely *request* to be with BC. I think the SEC would be pleased.
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RE: Looking at 2023
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?
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RE: Looking at 2023
(07-01-2017 06:07 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?

If you were going to move any schools from the SEC to the ACC, you would only need to move one (South Carolina).
Assuming that Notre Dame stays semi-indpendent (there are advantages for ESPN: gains access to at least one west coast game per year ((Standord or USC)), keeps B1G football out of the exclusive hands of FOX), moving South Carolina to the ACC with West Virginia allows the SEC to take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas. This moves all of the value out of the Big 12 to the SEC/ACC, and the mouse can provide a landing spot for the other 6 in the AAC.
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RE: Looking at 2023
(07-01-2017 11:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 06:07 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

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Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?

If you were going to move any schools from the SEC to the ACC, you would only need to move one (South Carolina).
Assuming that Notre Dame stays semi-indpendent (there are advantages for ESPN: gains access to at least one west coast game per year ((Standord or USC)), keeps B1G football out of the exclusive hands of FOX), moving South Carolina to the ACC with West Virginia allows the SEC to take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas. This moves all of the value out of the Big 12 to the SEC/ACC, and the mouse can provide a landing spot for the other 6 in the AAC.

The problem with moving schools out of the SEC is that their paydays would shrink. If ESPN ever wanted to rearrange the furniture Then they need to level the pay between the two. Then you move the redundant schools from each. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Auburn to the ACC and N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC maximizes exposure for both. But, the schools would have to want to leave. Maybe Vanderbilt would show some interest if the money was equal, but I doubt Ole Miss or Auburn would. Besides, all that really need be done is to merge the ACC & SEC and call our conferences divisions and our divisions subdivisions. Then with time you could geographically realign the subdivisions.
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RE: Looking at 2023
(07-01-2017 11:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 11:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 06:07 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

03-razz

Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?

If you were going to move any schools from the SEC to the ACC, you would only need to move one (South Carolina).
Assuming that Notre Dame stays semi-indpendent (there are advantages for ESPN: gains access to at least one west coast game per year ((Standord or USC)), keeps B1G football out of the exclusive hands of FOX), moving South Carolina to the ACC with West Virginia allows the SEC to take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas. This moves all of the value out of the Big 12 to the SEC/ACC, and the mouse can provide a landing spot for the other 6 in the AAC.

The problem with moving schools out of the SEC is that their paydays would shrink. If ESPN ever wanted to rearrange the furniture Then they need to level the pay between the two. Then you move the redundant schools from each. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Auburn to the ACC and N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC maximizes exposure for both. But, the schools would have to want to leave. Maybe Vanderbilt would show some interest if the money was equal, but I doubt Ole Miss or Auburn would. Besides, all that really need be done is to merge the ACC & SEC and call our conferences divisions and our divisions subdivisions. Then with time you could geographically realign the subdivisions.

Didn't Vanderbilt turn down inquiries from the Big Ten a while back?
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RE: Looking at 2023
(07-01-2017 11:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 11:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 06:07 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:02 PM)DukeFan Wrote:  ACC:
Coastal: Baylor, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia, West Virginia

Atlantic: Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas Christian,

SEC:
East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech

West: Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M

03-razz

Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?

If you were going to move any schools from the SEC to the ACC, you would only need to move one (South Carolina).
Assuming that Notre Dame stays semi-indpendent (there are advantages for ESPN: gains access to at least one west coast game per year ((Standord or USC)), keeps B1G football out of the exclusive hands of FOX), moving South Carolina to the ACC with West Virginia allows the SEC to take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas. This moves all of the value out of the Big 12 to the SEC/ACC, and the mouse can provide a landing spot for the other 6 in the AAC.

The problem with moving schools out of the SEC is that their paydays would shrink. If ESPN ever wanted to rearrange the furniture Then they need to level the pay between the two. Then you move the redundant schools from each. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Auburn to the ACC and N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC maximizes exposure for both. But, the schools would have to want to leave. Maybe Vanderbilt would show some interest if the money was equal, but I doubt Ole Miss or Auburn would. Besides, all that really need be done is to merge the ACC & SEC and call our conferences divisions and our divisions subdivisions. Then with time you could geographically realign the subdivisions.

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(07-01-2017 12:13 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 11:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 11:17 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(07-01-2017 06:07 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  
(06-30-2017 10:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, it would be the most profitable assortment for both of us.

Here's an off the wall proposal: move 3 from the sec to the acc, then move 7 from the big 12 to the sec. cleaner geographic setup. I'd say Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky might make the most sense for that. The 18th in the acc would be ND. The sec would pick up Texas+1, OU, OSU, Kansas, KState, and ISU. This is obviously absurd but it's the off season ?

If you were going to move any schools from the SEC to the ACC, you would only need to move one (South Carolina).
Assuming that Notre Dame stays semi-indpendent (there are advantages for ESPN: gains access to at least one west coast game per year ((Standord or USC)), keeps B1G football out of the exclusive hands of FOX), moving South Carolina to the ACC with West Virginia allows the SEC to take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas. This moves all of the value out of the Big 12 to the SEC/ACC, and the mouse can provide a landing spot for the other 6 in the AAC.

The problem with moving schools out of the SEC is that their paydays would shrink. If ESPN ever wanted to rearrange the furniture Then they need to level the pay between the two. Then you move the redundant schools from each. Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, and Auburn to the ACC and N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC maximizes exposure for both. But, the schools would have to want to leave. Maybe Vanderbilt would show some interest if the money was equal, but I doubt Ole Miss or Auburn would. Besides, all that really need be done is to merge the ACC & SEC and call our conferences divisions and our divisions subdivisions. Then with time you could geographically realign the subdivisions.

Didn't Vanderbilt turn down inquiries from the Big Ten a while back?

It was rumored at one time that they had a standing Big 10 invitation. Vanderbilt never considered it. They enjoy their historic ties to the SEC and we enjoy having them and Nashville.
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(06-27-2017 03:44 PM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 01:21 PM)YNot Wrote:  The 10pm ET ratings on ESPN are often better than the 12pm ET ratings....heck, it's even beat out ABC and FOX broadcasts.

And, it's not uncommon for the 10pm ET PAC game to beat out the 7pm ET PAC game (both on ESPN!).

A third of the country still lives in the Western US.

I'd believe that 10pm EST are often better than the noon EST ratings. At 10pm there isn't much else going on and there is relatively little other competition on TV for sports viewing.

At noon there are a lot more games on the slate plus things like kids sports, weddings, funerals, yard work, actual work, and other things adults have to deal with.

As a season ticket holder for an east coast team, half of the time the only games I can watch on tv are the late games since I'm driving to Greenville or tailgating during the noon games.
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