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3 on 3 basketball is growing in popularity. There is a new 3 on 3 league made up of mostly retired NBA players called the Big3 that premiered this past weekend with a bang & it will make its debut at the 2020 Olympics. How soon will it make its way to the NCAA?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday....103184926/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com...o-olympics
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(06-26-2017 08:36 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  3 on 3 basketball is growing in popularity. There is a new 3 on 3 league made up of mostly retired NBA players called the Big3 that premiered this past weekend with a bang & it will make its debut at the 2020 Olympics. How soon will it make its way to the NCAA?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday....103184926/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com...o-olympics

I'd love to see it as an NCAA sport during the summer.
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(06-26-2017 08:42 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 08:36 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  3 on 3 basketball is growing in popularity. There is a new 3 on 3 league made up of mostly retired NBA players called the Big3 that premiered this past weekend with a bang & it will make its debut at the 2020 Olympics. How soon will it make its way to the NCAA?

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday....103184926/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com...o-olympics

I'd love to see it as an NCAA sport during the summer.

Please no. I dont need anymore college sports that will get me hooked on it and take away more time from being productive.
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It could offer a cheap alternative to help Title IX issues. Add 7 scholarships for women, maybe replace a more expensive sport like rowing.
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I can't see it as anything more than a club sport at the college level. It is a players game. It is fun to play because it is easier to get 3 or 4 guys together and each player is more involved. As a spectator sport, the only fun is watching some former great NBA/college players. That will get old very quickly.
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(06-26-2017 10:01 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I can't see it as anything more than a club sport at the college level. It is a players game. It is fun to play because it is easier to get 3 or 4 guys together and each player is more involved. As a spectator sport, the only fun is watching some former great NBA/college players. That will get old very quickly.

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I could see it drawing well in the northeast, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio & probably North Carolina, particularly on the men's side.
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(06-26-2017 06:58 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 10:01 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I can't see it as anything more than a club sport at the college level. It is a players game. It is fun to play because it is easier to get 3 or 4 guys together and each player is more involved. As a spectator sport, the only fun is watching some former great NBA/college players. That will get old very quickly.

Not to worry. They'll all be on the disabled list within a couple of months.

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(06-26-2017 09:51 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It could offer a cheap alternative to help Title IX issues. Add 7 scholarships for women, maybe replace a more expensive sport like rowing.

Rowing is actually one of the least expensive Olympic sports, and with a scholarship limit of 20 it goes a long way to equaling the 85 of football.
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(06-26-2017 09:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 09:51 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It could offer a cheap alternative to help Title IX issues. Add 7 scholarships for women, maybe replace a more expensive sport like rowing.

Rowing is actually one of the least expensive Olympic sports, and with a scholarship limit of 20 it goes a long way to equaling the 85 of football.

Let me rephrase it then. It would be a cheap sport to add & would be easily available unlike rowing where you have to have access to water. 3 on 3 can be played anywhere where you have half of a basketball court, indoors or out. It could also be used to help with the universities basketball team as you could play your freshman to give them additional playing time in which they might not ordinarily get.
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(06-27-2017 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  
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(06-26-2017 09:51 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  It could offer a cheap alternative to help Title IX issues. Add 7 scholarships for women, maybe replace a more expensive sport like rowing.

Rowing is actually one of the least expensive Olympic sports, and with a scholarship limit of 20 it goes a long way to equaling the 85 of football.

Let me rephrase it then. It would be a cheap sport to add & would be easily available unlike rowing where you have to have access to water. 3 on 3 can be played anywhere where you have half of a basketball court, indoors or out. It could also be used to help with the universities basketball team as you could play your freshman to give them additional playing time in which they might not ordinarily get.

To make it worthwhile to the schools, you have to play it during a time that there's no other college sports to broadcast -- during the summer. It wouldn't get many viewers, at least at first, but a few viewers is better than almost no viewers, which is what the conference networks will get during the summer otherwise.
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Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.
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(06-27-2017 05:20 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.

I think I heard CNN reorters say that this will be an olympic event, as soon as the 2020 olympics. If thats the case then you can bet it will be an event that colleges will sponsor.
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(06-27-2017 08:23 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 05:20 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.

I think I heard CNN reorters say that this will be an olympic event, as soon as the 2020 olympics. If thats the case then you can bet it will be an event that colleges will sponsor.

Eh, I don't think it being an Olympic event makes much of a difference.

Badminton, Table Tennis, Taekwondo, Judo, and Boxing are longtime Olympic events that are not NCAA-sponsored sports. They're adding skateboarding in 2020 too, but I don't think that makes a difference to the NCAA.

I don't see 3-on-3 basketball becoming viable because I'm not sure it can be a revenue-generating sport for the NCAA. The Big 3 is relying on retired NBA players to sell its product and the NCAA will be lacking the starpower needed to market a 3-on-3 product. I also highly doubt that 5-star athletes will be lining up to play 3-on-3 when they'll end up making their money in a completely different setting (full court, 5-on-5).

Another thing to consider - the big names in college basketball are really the coaches, and I don't think you'll convince any of them that 3-on-3 is worth their time.

Also, when in the NCAA calendar does it make sense to show 3-on-3 basketball? All the oxygen in the fall is taken up by football, the winter is dominated by basketball, and baseball & softball do quite well in the spring. I'm not sure there's a natural window for 3-on-3 basketball that makes a ton of sense.
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I guess it could be a cheap sport .
The Men's and Women's teams could play at the same time it's half court.
I tried to get the local city recreation center to form a league.
It's always a hassle putting a team of ten guys together for a pick up league .
Three on three also increases the pool of player's.
Older players can still be really effective in the half court.

For kids its hard to not play defense 3×3 can't cherry pick.
I could see it being helpful for development I coach a little.

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3 on 3 tournaments have been going on all across America for decades. I know the finals in the top division draws well here & that's virtually without any "big" names. Slap a college name on those teams & the attendance would grow substantially, at least here.

You wouldn't need a long season, maybe 8-10 games. You wouldn't even need it to draw a large crowd either to make it profitable. Local universities could also join together & have a 4-8 team event at a single location. For a coach, stick an assistant out there to give him some head coaching experience. The NCAA tournament could be held over a weekend. Play over the summer or as the lead in to college football.

Possible event examples:
Chapel Hill- NC v Virginia, Duke v Georgetown, NC State v WF
The following weekend hold it in DC & swap opponents. Then continue to swap locations & opponents.

Syracuse, St John's, Seton Hall, Providence, UCONN & Rutgers could play in New York, Providence, NJ & Storrs.

Lexington-Kentucky v Indiana, Louisville v Cincinnati, WKU v Purdue
Then move to Cincinnati, Louisville, Indianapolis, etc swapping opponents at each location. Play a Saturday & Sunday event at each location, have 8 games played in 4 weeks.
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(06-28-2017 07:40 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:23 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 05:20 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.

I think I heard CNN reorters say that this will be an olympic event, as soon as the 2020 olympics. If thats the case then you can bet it will be an event that colleges will sponsor.

Eh, I don't think it being an Olympic event makes much of a difference.

Badminton, Table Tennis, Taekwondo, Judo, and Boxing are longtime Olympic events that are not NCAA-sponsored sports.
They're adding skateboarding in 2020 too, but I don't think that makes a difference to the NCAA.

I don't see 3-on-3 basketball becoming viable because I'm not sure it can be a revenue-generating sport for the NCAA. The Big 3 is relying on retired NBA players to sell its product and the NCAA will be lacking the starpower needed to market a 3-on-3 product. I also highly doubt that 5-star athletes will be lining up to play 3-on-3 when they'll end up making their money in a completely different setting (full court, 5-on-5).

Another thing to consider - the big names in college basketball are really the coaches, and I don't think you'll convince any of them that 3-on-3 is worth their time.

Also, when in the NCAA calendar does it make sense to show 3-on-3 basketball? All the oxygen in the fall is taken up by football, the winter is dominated by basketball, and baseball & softball do quite well in the spring. I'm not sure there's a natural window for 3-on-3 basketball that makes a ton of sense.

OK, those were all good points that I had not considered.
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(06-28-2017 07:40 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:23 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 05:20 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.

I think I heard CNN reorters say that this will be an olympic event, as soon as the 2020 olympics. If thats the case then you can bet it will be an event that colleges will sponsor.

Eh, I don't think it being an Olympic event makes much of a difference.

Badminton, Table Tennis, Taekwondo, Judo, and Boxing are longtime Olympic events that are not NCAA-sponsored sports. They're adding skateboarding in 2020 too, but I don't think that makes a difference to the NCAA.

I don't see 3-on-3 basketball becoming viable because I'm not sure it can be a revenue-generating sport for the NCAA. The Big 3 is relying on retired NBA players to sell its product and the NCAA will be lacking the starpower needed to market a 3-on-3 product. I also highly doubt that 5-star athletes will be lining up to play 3-on-3 when they'll end up making their money in a completely different setting (full court, 5-on-5).

Another thing to consider - the big names in college basketball are really the coaches, and I don't think you'll convince any of them that 3-on-3 is worth their time.

Also, when in the NCAA calendar does it make sense to show 3-on-3 basketball? All the oxygen in the fall is taken up by football, the winter is dominated by basketball, and baseball & softball do quite well in the spring. I'm not sure there's a natural window for 3-on-3 basketball that makes a ton of sense.

^ This.

I don't see this becoming an NCAA sport, and I don't think it will involve the NBA or retired NBA players. But there could be a place for it on the sports calendar in the summer, when its only real competition will come from tennis and golf. And that wouldn't be real competition for the target audience for 3-on-3.

3-on-3 is at its core an urban playground game. These leagues have existed for a long time, and have their own local legends that people come out to watch. These fans aren't watching golf in the summer. And the players aren't going to Kentucky or the Lakers. But the games they play are entertaining, and fit into short attention spans.
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(06-30-2017 08:21 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-28-2017 07:40 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:23 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 05:20 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Ahhh ... this is a gimmick, and the popularity will wear off. It's only been one night.

I don't think 3-on-3 will have the staying power of the Arena Football League, which also benefited from operating in the slowest part of the sports calendar.

And there's no way schools start thinking about expanding their sports offerings to include this. Let alone allow the kids they signed to play full court basketball to play this game. Just won't happen.

I think I heard CNN reorters say that this will be an olympic event, as soon as the 2020 olympics. If thats the case then you can bet it will be an event that colleges will sponsor.

Eh, I don't think it being an Olympic event makes much of a difference.

Badminton, Table Tennis, Taekwondo, Judo, and Boxing are longtime Olympic events that are not NCAA-sponsored sports. They're adding skateboarding in 2020 too, but I don't think that makes a difference to the NCAA.

I don't see 3-on-3 basketball becoming viable because I'm not sure it can be a revenue-generating sport for the NCAA. The Big 3 is relying on retired NBA players to sell its product and the NCAA will be lacking the starpower needed to market a 3-on-3 product. I also highly doubt that 5-star athletes will be lining up to play 3-on-3 when they'll end up making their money in a completely different setting (full court, 5-on-5).

Another thing to consider - the big names in college basketball are really the coaches, and I don't think you'll convince any of them that 3-on-3 is worth their time.

Also, when in the NCAA calendar does it make sense to show 3-on-3 basketball? All the oxygen in the fall is taken up by football, the winter is dominated by basketball, and baseball & softball do quite well in the spring. I'm not sure there's a natural window for 3-on-3 basketball that makes a ton of sense.

^ This.

I don't see this becoming an NCAA sport, and I don't think it will involve the NBA or retired NBA players. But there could be a place for it on the sports calendar in the summer, when its only real competition will come from tennis and golf. And that wouldn't be real competition for the target audience for 3-on-3.

3-on-3 is at its core an urban playground game. These leagues have existed for a long time, and have their own local legends that people come out to watch. These fans aren't watching golf in the summer. And the players aren't going to Kentucky or the Lakers. But the games they play are entertaining, and fit into short attention spans.

The NCAA could also move beach volleyball to the summer. Some people would watch that on TV. It's already an NCAA event but the championship is in early May which means the season has to start in the winter making it impractical for most schools. Beach volleyball in February in Boston or even Atlanta just doesn't work.

There must already be NCAA rules governing whether players can compete in both regular and beach volleyball in the same year.

Student-athletes are already in school during the summer. Why not have some NCAA athletic competition during the summer?
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