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(06-25-2017 05:26 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 04:48 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Lots of knowledgeable football fans on this board who are keenly aware of their respective university's football budget. If you were charged with the task of restarting football at Wichita State and eventually turning it into a middle-of-the-pack AAC performer, how much money would you need? How big of a stadium? What's a realistic timeline? Can the process be fast-tracked?


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My advice... Do not do it.

College Football, outside the "Power" Conferences, is an endangered species. For most of us, it will not be tenable over the next decade...either we will move down or have to disband it.

If Wichita State wastes money trying to restart football, administrators should be investigated for fiscal malfeasance.

Besides which, the State of Kansas, thanks to your brilliant Governor, is in such financial straits that there is no more money for such extravagance.

This is the correct answer.

I know what I'm going to say might offend a football-playing conference but I think college football peaked about 5-10 years ago. The concussion issue, the money payout issue (say goodbye to big payouts from ESPN and others after they overbid the hell out of it), the lowering TV ratings, etc. all seem to point a general decline of the sport in the future. It's still the king but I'm not sure why anybody would want to invest half a billion dollars in something that has peaked and is in a downward trajectory.

And as others have mentioned, WSU wanted desperately to get into a better conference. They struck gold in that they did so WITHOUT adding the unnecessary expense of football.

It's just totally a different landscape now. 10 years ago it might have had legs and looked achievable/sustainable, and actually made sense. Now? Not even practical.

There will never be football at WSU again and with good reason. The end. Go Navy.
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Half a billion dollars is laughable


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RE: Football at WSU
(06-25-2017 05:11 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 05:09 PM)fastbow Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 04:55 PM)shock Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 04:48 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Lots of knowledgeable football fans on this board who are keenly aware of their respective university's football budget. If you were charged with the task of restarting football at Wichita State and eventually turning it into a middle-of-the-pack AAC performer, how much money would you need? How big of a stadium? What's a realistic timeline? Can the process be fast-tracked?


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WSU is explicitly a non-football member of the AAC. It was a condition of joining the AAC. Presidents do not want WSU to use the AAC as a springboard for a football program because it would make WSU a very valuable SEC or Big 12 candidate in a matter of a few years.


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The University of Kansas would sooner have every member of the Kansas Board of Regents murdered than they would allow Wichita State to be Big 12 members. You really cannot contemplate how much they hate us and are afraid of that very scenario. We could be national champions in football and other sports and KU would find some way to keep us out of the Big 12. It's all they have, and they defend it zealously.

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(06-25-2017 10:23 PM)panama Wrote:  Half a billion dollars is laughable


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Why?

Is a quarter billion better sounding? Still not a wise investment.
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Research is not hard. Plenty of startups to look at in last 15 to 20'years. None spent that much.


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(06-25-2017 10:26 PM)panama Wrote:  Research is not hard. Plenty of startups to look at in last 15 to 20'years. None spent that much.


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To play FCS football or FBS football? And I imagine starting up football 20 years ago was a little cheaper than it is now.
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FBS. I know we,have not spent even $100M on football even with the stadium renovation. Nobody has.


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(06-25-2017 10:23 PM)panama Wrote:  Half a billion dollars is laughable


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I agree. If we could build the stadium downtown with it being a community stadium that Wichita State only plays in and doesn't own... it could essentially be free. Then we allocate the $2M+ property tax benefit from the city towards football, add a few women's sports, hopefully get something from the conference we play in, and how much is it going to cost us again?

We can start FCS football immediately with the plan of moving to D1 as soon as we are eligible. Talks for a major downtown stadium would begin the moment we play our first game. It would require a campaign of sorts that would coincide with us joining a Power 6 league.


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(06-25-2017 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  FBS. I know we,have not spent even $100M on football even with the stadium renovation. Nobody has.


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Renovating a stadium doesn't cost near as much as tearing down an old stadium and building a new 50,000+ seat one completely from scratch, no?
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RE: Football at WSU
Cessna Stadium would be fine for FCS football after say a 15-20 million dollar renovation. Moreover, having only 65 scholarship players and playing in a more geographically reasonable conference like MVFC would make football FAR easier to pay for.

Cessna Stadium:
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FCS football is better than no football.
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