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RE: 2017 Basketball Recruiting Class
(06-27-2017 07:53 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Oooo... SeattleVandal "almost" poked the bear (Coach) with his recruiting class comment... then he retracted.

I think Seattle has some solid additions but only three of their D1 transfers will get to play this season...

This season...
Richaud Gittens, 6'4, GR, Weber State transfer - 7.3 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 1.8 APG, (Rivals 3-Star)
Jordan Hill, 6'3, GR, Wisconsin transfer - 1.5 PPG, 1.1 RPG. 0.5 APG
Josh Hearlihy, 6'8, GR, Vermont transfer - 2.0 PPG, 1.4 RPG, 0.6 APG
Aaron Nettles, 6'0, FR, - 14.5 PPG

Next season...
Delante Jones, 6'5, JR, American U. transfer - 11.5 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 1.8 APG, (ESPN 3-Star)
Dashawn McDowell, 6'5, SO, SMU transfer - 1.4 PPG, 1.0 RPG, 0.5 APG, (Rivals 3-Star & Scout 3-Star)
Matt Owies, 6'0, SO, - Hawai'i transfer - 3.6 PPG, 0.9 RPG, 0.9 APG.

However the "biggest" addition to this season's Seattle team might be the return of Aaron Menzies.

So, you think Seattle U. out recruited NMSU?

As Coach pointed out, NMSU adds...

Shunn Buchanan, 6'0, SO - 12.7 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 5.3 APG
LaMarcus Lee, 6'2, SO - 15.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 2.5 APG
Gabe Hadley, 6'3, FR - 17.5 PPG, 4.9 PPG, 1.0 APG
Kortrijk Miles, 6'4, FR - 20.1 PPG, 9.8 RPG
Wayne Stewart, 6'6, JR - 18.3 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 1.3 APG (Top 50 JUCO)

Addtionally NMSU has the following coming off redshirt...

AJ Harris, 5'9, SO, Ohio State transfer - 2.8 PPG, 1.0 RPG, 1.7 APG, (ESPN 4-Star/Top 100, Rivals 4-Star/Top 150, Scout 4-Star/Top100)
Johnny McCants, 6'7, FR - 19.7 PPG, 12.2 RPG, 3.3 APG, (Rivals 3-Star)
Marlon Jones, 6'9, JR - 10.8 PPG, 5.5 RPG, (Rival 3-Star)

I think Hayford has improved Seattle's immediate prospects but it is obvious Jans has more long term talent.

Posted it but changed my mind about another argument with CA lol. But im talking about this years class, not last years like AJ Harris or who Dollar had left over.

Those are high school and JUCO stats, not college like Seattle U's. Im basing it mostly on McDowell, Gittens, and especially Jones. Wisconsin fans have said good things about Hill too. So yes, based on 2017 signees, id take SUs class of transfers over a bunch of JUCO guys
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RE: 2017 Basketball Recruiting Class
If all of Seattle's 2017 class were eligible, I "might" agree with you considering all the "maturity" Hayford is adding. But Delante Jones and Dashawn McDowell should be real good players next year; after Gittens, Hearlihy, and Hill are gone. So, the Seattle fans will not see the impact of all these players simultaneously.
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(06-27-2017 08:33 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  If all of Seattle's 2017 class were eligible, I "might" agree with you considering all the "maturity" Hayford is adding. But Delante Jones and Dashawn McDowell should be real good players next year; after Gittens, Hearlihy, and Hill are gone. So, the Seattle fans will not see the impact of all these players simultaneously.

I see what youre saying, I was just talking about the class as a whole. Not what the class does only next season
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(06-27-2017 10:53 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:33 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  If all of Seattle's 2017 class were eligible, I "might" agree with you considering all the "maturity" Hayford is adding. But Delante Jones and Dashawn McDowell should be real good players next year; after Gittens, Hearlihy, and Hill are gone. So, the Seattle fans will not see the impact of all these players simultaneously.

I see what youre saying, I was just talking about the class as a whole. Not what the class does only next season

On a good note, Seattle has a head start for 2018 recruiting. As I said before, Jones and McDowell are good additions. Even the Aussie Owies is "probably" pretty decent. With a seasoned group of Menzies, Kavas, Ulaneo, and Means, Seattle U might actually be ready to contend for the WAC Championship in 2018.
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(06-28-2017 12:35 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 10:53 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:33 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  If all of Seattle's 2017 class were eligible, I "might" agree with you considering all the "maturity" Hayford is adding. But Delante Jones and Dashawn McDowell should be real good players next year; after Gittens, Hearlihy, and Hill are gone. So, the Seattle fans will not see the impact of all these players simultaneously.

I see what youre saying, I was just talking about the class as a whole. Not what the class does only next season

On a good note, Seattle has a head start for 2018 recruiting. As I said before, Jones and McDowell are good additions. Even the Aussie Owies is "probably" pretty decent. With a seasoned group of Menzies, Kavas, Ulaneo, and Means, Seattle U might actually be ready to contend for the WAC Championship in 2018.

Yep, if the young guys from Dollar show they can succeed with Hayford, 2018 isnt out of the question. I think Means will end up transfering, Hayford has brought in so many guards and he will only be a sophomore. Not suprised Montoya left either.

Menzies seemed to get 3x better over last offseason, so if he stays healthy who knows what he could become. He is committed to Hayford and doesnt want to transfer at all.
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The return of Menzies by itself will be a big lift for Seattle. If the incoming guys can replace Powell and Westendorf, they could be pretty good. I still think Means will get plenty of minutes.

By the way the WAC is being discussed in a thread on the conference realignment board for those of you that care about such things.

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(06-28-2017 06:11 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-28-2017 12:35 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 10:53 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 08:33 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  If all of Seattle's 2017 class were eligible, I "might" agree with you considering all the "maturity" Hayford is adding. But Delante Jones and Dashawn McDowell should be real good players next year; after Gittens, Hearlihy, and Hill are gone. So, the Seattle fans will not see the impact of all these players simultaneously.

I see what youre saying, I was just talking about the class as a whole. Not what the class does only next season

On a good note, Seattle has a head start for 2018 recruiting. As I said before, Jones and McDowell are good additions. Even the Aussie Owies is "probably" pretty decent. With a seasoned group of Menzies, Kavas, Ulaneo, and Means, Seattle U might actually be ready to contend for the WAC Championship in 2018.

Yep, if the young guys from Dollar show they can succeed with Hayford, 2018 isnt out of the question. I think Means will end up transfering, Hayford has brought in so many guards and he will only be a sophomore. Not suprised Montoya left either.

Menzies seemed to get 3x better over last offseason, so if he stays healthy who knows what he could become. He is committed to Hayford and doesnt want to transfer at all.

Aaron Menzies was averaging 12.3 PPG & 6.3 RPG before he was injured; 14 games into the season. He was fairly productive just before the conference season started. So, if Menzies is healthy this season and Hayford chooses to run the offense through the post at his pace, Seattle could be a very tough half-court team; with Menzies camping out in the paint...especially in 2018 when he is a senior.
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