(06-23-2017 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  What is with the odd and contrived "disavow" thing?

You haven't heard yet? Liberals have to justify every position they take and speak out against every bad thing every other liberal does. Conservatives just have to call out liberals...they don't have to justify anything.

Nice, huh?

The actual origins of this phenomenon occurred during the campaign when a number of news organizations repeatedly asked Trump if he would disavow the comments made by someone who both supported Trump and was a member of the KKK. This was once used by various members of the media with glee to try to paint Trump into a corner. Remember how "gleeful" Bernie Sanders was when he demanded that Trump needed to disavow the numbers of "undesirable" people who supported him? That Trump was fomenting this hyper-partisan build up of rage in the poor, unwashed masses who felt betrayed by NAFTA and illegal immigration? That was the origin in the "disavow" game.

Unfortunately for those who are democrats in good faith, they get to see the shoe being put on the other foot. Now Bernie gets to be called out for not "disavowing" the shooter who tried to take out as many GOP congressmen as possible. Tom, I have no idea whether you played the disavow game when Trump was a candidate and are "conveniently forgetting" or if you thought it was wrong back then. Regardless, in this world of hyper-partisan rhetoric - most from the left since Trump took office - it's made an extremely ugly atmosphere.

Frankly, the media has so little good will left with the majority of everyday people in this country, I'll be surprised if we don't see massive collapses of a multitude of media companies.

miko, thanks.

At least I can sympathize that it was a thing from the election, and not just conjured out of thin air.


Agree that the media is terrible -- they care only about ratings and clicks, end of story. Whatever riles people up, that's what they want.

(06-23-2017 01:48 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 01:20 PM)JTiger Wrote:  Good God what is wrong with people.

I can understand being a political rival but they are still human beings. I don't want anyone I disagree with on sports or politics to die. In this time of one ups-manship I guess we have devolved to this type of speech.

...is more fonzies than kent state

...can!t fix a spoiled child

I've been waiting for this bs for quite awhile now...

politcs is only the platter....

.....because they were never told "NO" and if they misbehaved, had their a$$ busted.

Now, being told NO for the first time in their lives, they can't accept it and turn to violence.......but only from a distance. Up close and personal, they are p_ssys.

(06-23-2017 02:38 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  miko, thanks.

At least I can sympathize that it was a thing from the election, and not just conjured out of thin air.


Agree that the media is terrible -- they care only about ratings and clicks, end of story. Whatever riles people up, that's what they want.

This. What is sad is that far too many are too lazy to go and get their own info, and just listen to whatever the media tells them. Sheeple.

(06-23-2017 01:24 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And in other conservative fantasy land beliefs, no republican official has ever said privately that they wished Hillary or Obama or any other democrat official were dead.

As said, Tom.. find someone who has one of these claims on tape somewhere.. and then we'll look at that individual.

But until then, this just continues to prove the Demoncrats (note: Not Democrats, but DemoNcrats (aka Progressives)) will always wish the worst on someone they disagree with.

I guess I proved my point...you guys are clearly in a fantasy land where you believe that no repug has ever said anything like this in private. Typical as to your usual delusions that repugs are perfect.

No guys...I did not say there was anything like this on tape. Jeebus!

You're not wrong to say that Crebman, but on the other hand I think a lot of people just too dang busy to have even 30mins to research any particular thing up on the internet. Work, kids, house, etc. just takes up so much time, it's much easier to just tune in and listen.

And news used to be trustworthy, so that attitude might still exist towards the big news outlets ... but I can't see how cable news would have that.

(06-23-2017 02:38 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  miko, thanks.

At least I can sympathize that it was a thing from the election, and not just conjured out of thin air.


Agree that the media is terrible -- they care only about ratings and clicks, end of story. Whatever riles people up, that's what they want.

you don't realize how that puts you in shadier lighting.....

what a putz.....

(06-23-2017 03:34 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  You're not wrong to say that Crebman, but on the other hand I think a lot of people just too dang busy to have even 30mins to research any particular thing up on the internet. Work, kids, house, etc. just takes up so much time, it's much easier to just tune in and listen.

And news used to be trustworthy, so that attitude might still exist towards the big news outlets ... but I can't see how cable news would have that.

lol.....

So wait, just because someone may say something in private that excuses this? Is this more classified information only two people have heard?

(06-23-2017 03:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 01:24 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And in other conservative fantasy land beliefs, no republican official has ever said privately that they wished Hillary or Obama or any other democrat official were dead.

As said, Tom.. find someone who has one of these claims on tape somewhere.. and then we'll look at that individual.

But until then, this just continues to prove the Demoncrats (note: Not Democrats, but DemoNcrats (aka Progressives)) will always wish the worst on someone they disagree with.

I guess I proved my point...you guys are clearly in a fantasy land where you believe that no repug has ever said anything like this in private. Typical as to your usual delusions that repugs are perfect.

No guys...I did not say there was anything like this on tape. Jeebus!

Can't see where anyone claimed they didn't say something like this. Just asking for examples where they were stupid enough to be recorded.

(06-23-2017 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  What is with the odd and contrived "disavow" thing?

You haven't heard yet? Liberals have to justify every position they take and speak out against every bad thing every other liberal does. Conservatives just have to call out liberals...they don't have to justify anything.

Nice, huh?

Oh please tom, unbunch your undies.... How many times were various people asked to disavow then candidate trumps awful comments?

(06-23-2017 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  What is with the odd and contrived "disavow" thing?

You haven't heard yet? Liberals have to justify every position they take and speak out against every bad thing every other liberal does. Conservatives just have to call out liberals...they don't have to justify anything.

Nice, huh?

Oh please tom, unbunch your undies.... How many times were various people asked to disavow then candidate trumps awful comments?

You probably won't get an answer. His memory is probably about as long as his.... pinky toe...

Is there anyone the Democrats don't agree with these days that they don't want dead?

(06-23-2017 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 12:47 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  What is with the odd and contrived "disavow" thing?

You haven't heard yet? Liberals have to justify every position they take and speak out against every bad thing every other liberal does. Conservatives just have to call out liberals...they don't have to justify anything.

Nice, huh?

Oh please tom, unbunch your undies.... How many times were various people asked to disavow then candidate trumps awful comments?

How many times have Republicans been asked to disavow random supporters comments?

Violence toward others is always wrong. The fact is many of the fringe left and fringe right are the cause of so much damage. How many liberal ideologues are responsible for mass murder and political neutralization? I can think of Pol Pot, Stalin, Che....I know there are many others. America is in a dangerous spot. The violence being promoted on campus and the liberal left are sending the country into a potential civil war.

(06-24-2017 09:32 AM)hburg Wrote:  Violence toward others is always wrong. The fact is many of the fringe left and fringe right are the cause of so much damage. How many liberal ideologues are responsible for mass murder and political neutralization? I can think of Pol Pot, Stalin, Che....I know there are many others. America is in a dangerous spot. The violence being promoted on campus and the liberal left are sending the country into a potential civil war.

Civil war against ardent 2nd amendment supporters led by pajama boys in ninja costumes? All i have to say to them is

(06-24-2017 09:32 AM)hburg Wrote:  Violence toward others is always wrong. The fact is many of the fringe left and fringe right are the cause of so much damage. How many liberal ideologues are responsible for mass murder and political neutralization? I can think of Pol Pot, Stalin, Che....I know there are many others. America is in a dangerous spot. The violence being promoted on campus and the liberal left are sending the country into a potential civil war.

I don't think there would be a war. No more than Canada went to war with the UK for independence.

(06-25-2017 11:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-24-2017 09:32 AM)hburg Wrote:  Violence toward others is always wrong. The fact is many of the fringe left and fringe right are the cause of so much damage. How many liberal ideologues are responsible for mass murder and political neutralization? I can think of Pol Pot, Stalin, Che....I know there are many others. America is in a dangerous spot. The violence being promoted on campus and the liberal left are sending the country into a potential civil war.

I don't think there would be a war. No more than Canada went to war with the UK for independence.

Your ilk is first in line....

First in line for what? No need to play coy

(06-25-2017 01:35 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  First in line for what? No need to play coy

how about this.....and I've posited this too many times to the dippos....

name me one long term economical positive within a capitalistic society where the dems leaned towards other than filtering to the disadvantaged? (that would be a negative for the dense)

good luck 'hooded' one....