Hopefully this is taken seriously and Pence gets to the bottom of this and finds out how much of a problem we really have.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...n-estimat/

"The ODU professors, who stand by their work in the face of attacks from the left, concluded that in 2008 as few as 38,000 and as many as 2.8 million noncitizens voted.
Mr. Agresti’s analysis of the same polling data settled on much higher numbers. He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted."

"Last month, the president signed an executive order setting up a commission to try to find on-the-ground truth in illegal voting. Headed by Vice President Mike Pence, the panel also will look at outdated voter lists across the nation with names of dead people and multiple registrants.
For 2012, Just Facts said, 3.2 million to 5.6 million noncitizens were registered to vote and 1.2 million to 3.6 million of them voted."

I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

but I could have sworn that the libtards on the board have stated that voting fraud doesnt exists....

I thought illegal voting was impossible?

Our resident experts will trash the study's methodology soon. That's what happened last time a similar report was posted.

Were they russians?

(06-22-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Were they russians?

Could be. There are 12 million illegals and 9 million legal aliens. Many of the legals are Russians, but they aren't eligible to vote.

President Trump vindicated yet again.

Please baby Jesus let us find out this is true...Please.

So that's how trump won. I knew it!

Meanwhile in Ohio...which is likely similar to most states...

Ohio investigation found 385 non-US citizens registered to vote, 82 cast illegal ballots

(06-22-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

I'd look at Califa, Illinois and NY first. No one has noticed that a state that is so screwed up start with the word Ill as in sick. Fitting.

(06-22-2017 12:10 PM)olLIEbaba Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

I'd look at Califa, Illinois and NY first. No one has noticed that a state that is so screwed up start with the word Ill as in sick. Fitting.

So, your user name contains the word LIE.

Illegal voting isn't happening!

There were like 3 in Maine! So it isn't happening anywhere!

(06-22-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

Why? For appearances? Serious question... not following the logic.

The largest populations of illegal immigrants are in (off the top of my head) Texas, Cali, NY and Ill... I'd start there

(06-22-2017 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Meanwhile in Ohio...which is likely similar to most states...

Ohio investigation found 385 non-US citizens registered to vote, 82 cast illegal ballots

according to fairus.org (which I'm sure leans right), they estimate the illegal alien population of Ohio to be around 110,000 out of 11.9mm nationally. They say (and I suspect link) that DHS estimates the total at 11.43mm ( so they're close) but DHS only lists the top 10 lastgest states, and ohio isn't one of them. I looked at Texas... and fairus estimates 1.81mm illegals, and DHS estimates 1.83mm.... for cali it's 2.635 and 2.82... so they DO seem to be reasonable (unless you think DHS in 2012 was cooking the books)

so... Ohio isn't really representative of places like Cali and NY and Ill and Tx... It's the 7th most populous state and nowhere close to the top 10 in illegals... and i feel confident that there is 'safety in numbers'... meaning that the more people you know who are cheating, the more likely you are to cheat as well...

Bottom line is that the left uses statistics to argue that voter ID disenfranchises people, though they are rarely able to produce any actual people... YOU have proven that actual people have been disenfranchised by having their legal votes canceled by illegal ones.

Nobody (from the right anyway) said (seriously) that the illegal votes in this country would have swayed a Presidential election... but surely you can imagine that even just 83 votes... much less a few thousand could sway a number of elections on things like 'sanctuary cities'.

(06-22-2017 12:10 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

I'd look at Califa, Illinois and NY first. No one has noticed that a state that is so screwed up start with the word Ill as in sick. Fitting.

But they would be clustered in heavy blue districts in heavy blue states and not have as much impact.

(06-22-2017 01:09 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I'd start in Texas, Georgia, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona.

Later I'd look at California, Illinois and New York.

Why? For appearances? Serious question... not following the logic.

The largest populations of illegal immigrants are in (off the top of my head) Texas, Cali, NY and Ill... I'd start there

(06-22-2017 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Meanwhile in Ohio...which is likely similar to most states...

Ohio investigation found 385 non-US citizens registered to vote, 82 cast illegal ballots

according to fairus.org (which I'm sure leans right), they estimate the illegal alien population of Ohio to be around 110,000 out of 11.9mm nationally. They say (and I suspect link) that DHS estimates the total at 11.43mm ( so they're close) but DHS only lists the top 10 lastgest states, and ohio isn't one of them. I looked at Texas... and fairus estimates 1.81mm illegals, and DHS estimates 1.83mm.... for cali it's 2.635 and 2.82... so they DO seem to be reasonable (unless you think DHS in 2012 was cooking the books)

so... Ohio isn't really representative of places like Cali and NY and Ill and Tx... It's the 7th most populous state and nowhere close to the top 10 in illegals... and i feel confident that there is 'safety in numbers'... meaning that the more people you know who are cheating, the more likely you are to cheat as well...

Bottom line is that the left uses statistics to argue that voter ID disenfranchises people, though they are rarely able to produce any actual people... YOU have proven that actual people have been disenfranchised by having their legal votes canceled by illegal ones.

Nobody (from the right anyway) said (seriously) that the illegal votes in this country would have swayed a Presidential election... but surely you can imagine that even just 83 votes... much less a few thousand could sway a number of elections on things like 'sanctuary cities'.

Don't confuse illegal votes with illegal aliens. I suspect legal aliens are much more likely to illegally vote than illegal ones. And dead and fictitious voters have been proven to exist as well.

(06-22-2017 01:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  Don't confuse illegal votes with illegal aliens. I suspect legal aliens are much more likely to illegally vote than illegal ones. And dead and fictitious voters have been proven to exist as well.

Interesting... hadn't considered that angle...

Legal aliens that vote illegally should be removed.

(06-22-2017 10:53 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I thought illegal voting was impossible?

All one has to do is get registered. Depending on the state sometimes all you need is copy of paycheck, utility bill, bank statement. Proof of citizenship is not required, often neither is a photo ID, and Beginning in 1993 with Washington state, 12 states and DC have changed their laws to allow immigrants in the country illegally to obtain driver's licenses Once you have that ID it is even easier to get registered.
http://immigration.procon.org/view.resou...eID=005535