(06-22-2017 10:31 AM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 09:11 AM)Lush Wrote:  it doesn't matter. nick van exel would break all your hearts with a three at the buzzer and stare at you until you got home

I loved the Quickster when he played for my Mavs. As of last season I believe he was still with the Mavs organization coaching our D-league team.

He's an assistant with the Grizzlies now. From all accounts he will likely be a head coach in the NBA in a couple of years.

I hated Van Exel when he was beating us. enjoy him today. true story in the early Grizzly days still in the Pyramid his team was in pregame warm ups and looked up and saw the retired Tiger jersey's hanging and said "they should have one of me hanging in here too"

(06-22-2017 10:04 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 05:47 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Memphis can make a good case:

G - Derrick Rose (#1 overall NBA draft pick, 2008)
G - Larry Finch (best all-around Tiger ever, led team to 1973 NCAA F2)
G/SF - Penny Hardaway (#3 overall NBA draft pick, 1993)
F - Win Wilfong (All-American and #4 overall NBA draft pick, 1957)
C - Keith Lee (#11 overall NBA draft pick, 1985)

We also have:

Tyreke Evans, G (#4 overall NBA pick, 2009)
Will Barton, G, 2013
Larry Kenon, F, 1972
Forest Arnold F, 1956 (all-time scorer until Finch)
Elliott Perry, G, 1992
Ronnie Robinson, F, 1973
Rodney Carney, F, 2007
Elliot Williams, G. 2012
Andre Turner, G, 1987
DaJuan Wagner, G, 2003
Shawne Williams, F, 2007
Lorenzen Wright, C, 1997
Vincent Askew, G, 1998
William Bedford, C, 1987
Mike Butler, G, 1968
Joey Dorsey, C, 2008
Chris Douglas-Roberts, F, 2008
Rich Jones, F, 1970
Andre Turner, G, 1987
Antonio Anderson, G, 2009
Earl Barron, C, 2005

I'm sure I'm leaving out a few, but that's a start.

Keith Lee was a 4 time all american. All 4 years in college. You won't see that again.

Wayne Yates - 1960-61 NY Times & Converse All American. 5th overall pick by the Lakers. played one year before injury derailed him. returned as an assistant in 1969 for Moe Iba & then Gene Bartow. became Memphis head coach in 1974-75 until 1978-79 season when he was fired with a 93-45 overall record and replaced by Dana Kirk.

(06-21-2017 10:54 PM)natibeast21 Wrote:  My 1st Team:
PG:Nick Van Excel
SG: Big O Oscar
Swingman: Jack Twyman
PF: Danny Fortson
Center: Kenyon Martin

Bench:
1: Steve Logan
3: Dontonio Wingfield
3/4: Rueben Patterson
4/5: Jason Maxiel
On the team for his highlight dunks: 2/3 James White

Roger McClendon
Pat Cummings
Jim Ard
Rick Roberson
Ron Bonham
Paul Hogue
Tom Thacker
George Wilson
Ralph Davis
Tom Thacker

(06-22-2017 11:06 AM)mike012779 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 11:50 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  [quote='Moody Magic' pid='14410177' dateline='1498095360']
Don't think anyone can compete with Houston on this one.

UCONN & Cincy can.



Ray Allen
Caron Butler
Rip Hamilton
Emeka Okafor
Kemba Walker
Shabazz Napier

** Donyell Marshall and Andre Drummond would have to be on that list as well for Uconn. A current NBAer and a former one.

I can't believe I'm arguing for Houston but as good as your six are they can't compare to Houston's top three - Dream, Drexler and Hayes, all HOFers. And your only HOFer, Ray Allen, would rank fourth on my list of those four players.

Cincinnati Bearcats All-Time Team:

STARTERS:

PG: Oscar Robertson (NPOY 1958, 1959, 1960, NBA MVP 1964, 12X NBA All-Star, NBA Champion, HOF)
PG/SG: Steve Logan (Consensus 1st-team All-American 2002, 2X C-USA Player of the Year)
SG: Tom Thacker (Consensus 1st-team All-American 1963, 2X NCAA Champion, NBA and ABA champion)
PF: Danny Fortson (Consensus 2nd-team and 1st-team All-American 1996, 1997, 2X C-USA Player of the Year)
PF/C: Kenyon Martin (NPOY 2000, 1st pick in the 2000 NBA draft, 2004 NBA All-Star)

BENCH:

PG: Nick Van Exel (3rd-Team All-American 1993, NBA All-Star)
SG: Sean Kilpatrick (Consensus 2nd-team All-American and 1st-team AAC 2014, 2nd-team Big East 2012, 2013, current NBA player)
SG/SF: Lloyd Batts (All-American 3rd team 1973, Honorable Mention 1974)
SF: Jack Twyman (2nd-team All-American 1955, 6X NBA All-Star, HOF)
SF: Ron Bonham (Consensus 1st-team and 2nd-team All-American 1963, 1964, NCAA Champion, 2X NBA Champion)
C: Paul Hogue (All-American 2nd/3rd teams 1961, 1962, Final Four MOP 1962, 2nd pick in the 1962 NBA draft)
C: Connie Dierking (2nd-team All-American 1958, 5th pick in 1958 NBA draft, 13-year NBA career)

Every guy on my all-time team was an All-American, with 6 of them being consensus 1st-team and 2 national player of the year winners (Oscar and Kenyon Martin). We have a bunch of other All-Americans that aren't on this list, but I decided to narrow it down to a 12-man roster for fun.

(06-22-2017 09:11 AM)Lush Wrote:  it doesn't matter. nick van exel would break all your hearts with a three at the buzzer and stare at you until you got home

The good thing about putting Van Exel on the team is Memphis would have absolutely no shot at that point. Penny would go run and hide.

I forgot to put up my 5.

I think I would go with
PG Shaq Harrison
SG Steve "Silk" Harris
SF Shea Seals
PF Eric Coley
PF Michael Ruffin

Bench:
PG Greg Harrington
SG Jim "Country" King
SF Bob "Bingo" Smith
PF David Shelton
C Brandon Kurtz

It would give me a good mix of pts, rebounds, assists, blocks, and defense.

(06-22-2017 02:09 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Cincinnati Bearcats All-Time Team:

STARTERS:

PG: Oscar Robertson (NPOY 1958, 1959, 1960, NBA MVP 1964, 12X NBA All-Star, NBA Champion, HOF)
PG/SG: Steve Logan (Consensus 1st-team All-American 2002, 2X C-USA Player of the Year)
SG: Tom Thacker (Consensus 1st-team All-American 1963, 2X NCAA Champion, NBA and ABA champion)
PF: Danny Fortson (Consensus 2nd-team and 1st-team All-American 1996, 1997, 2X C-USA Player of the Year)
PF/C: Kenyon Martin (NPOY 2000, 1st pick in the 2000 NBA draft, 2004 NBA All-Star)

BENCH:

PG: Nick Van Exel (3rd-Team All-American 1993, NBA All-Star)
SG: Sean Kilpatrick (Consensus 2nd-team All-American and 1st-team AAC 2014, 2nd-team Big East 2012, 2013, current NBA player)
SG/SF: Lloyd Batts (All-American 3rd team 1973, Honorable Mention 1974)
SF: Jack Twyman (2nd-team All-American 1955, 6X NBA All-Star, HOF)
SF: Ron Bonham (Consensus 1st-team and 2nd-team All-American 1963, 1964, NCAA Champion, 2X NBA Champion)
C: Paul Hogue (All-American 2nd/3rd teams 1961, 1962, Final Four MOP 1962, 2nd pick in the 1962 NBA draft)
C: Connie Dierking (2nd-team All-American 1958, 5th pick in 1958 NBA draft, 13-year NBA career)

Every guy on my all-time team was an All-American, with 6 of them being consensus 1st-team and 2 national player of the year winners (Oscar and Kenyon Martin). We have a bunch of other All-Americans that aren't on this list, but I decided to narrow it down to a 12-man roster for fun.

I would switch Thacker and Twyman simply for a more traditional lineup, but that's about the best team you can put together for UC when only taking AA's into account. Patterson is the only omission IMO worthy of a spot on the roster.

(06-22-2017 01:28 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 11:06 AM)mike012779 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 11:50 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  [quote='Moody Magic' pid='14410177' dateline='1498095360']
Don't think anyone can compete with Houston on this one.

UCONN & Cincy can.



Ray Allen
Caron Butler
Rip Hamilton
Emeka Okafor
Kemba Walker
Shabazz Napier

** Donyell Marshall and Andre Drummond would have to be on that list as well for Uconn. A current NBAer and a former one.

I can't believe I'm arguing for Houston but as good as your six are they can't compare to Houston's top three - Dream, Drexler and Hayes, all HOFers. And your only HOFer, Ray Allen, would rank fourth on my list of those four players.

I know Otis Birdsong, Rickie Winslow aren't HOFers but I wouldn't hesitate in substituting either of them two to provide Drexler a well earn breather.

(06-22-2017 02:14 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  The good thing about putting Van Exel on the team is Memphis would have absolutely no shot at that point. Penny would go run and hide.

Herb Jones was the guy that made Penny go run and hide.

(06-22-2017 03:22 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I forgot to put up my 5.

I think I would go with
PG Shaq Harrison
SG Steve "Silk" Harris
SF Shea Seals
PF Eric Coley
PF Michael Ruffin

Bench:
PG Greg Harrington
SG Jim "Country" King
SF Bob "Bingo" Smith
PF David Shelton
C Brandon Kurtz

It would give me a good mix of pts, rebounds, assists, blocks, and defense.

Did you accidently delete Paul Pressey?

(06-21-2017 09:04 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:53 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:37 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  And by power players do you mean post players? Cause Clyde the Glide had no power game...

I use the term "Power" as that to describe greatness also.

Oh okay. Then I guess those schools can compete with the Big O, K-Mart (who is from Dallas), Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton....but I still say UH has bigger names.

We have very little to offer - Jon Contract.......

UH has 3 of the greatest 50 NBA players of all-time. You are correct. No one is competing with UH in this conference. I would put our all-time starting 5 against anyone in the country.

(06-23-2017 10:48 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 09:04 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:53 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:37 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  And by power players do you mean post players? Cause Clyde the Glide had no power game...

I use the term "Power" as that to describe greatness also.

Oh okay. Then I guess those schools can compete with the Big O, K-Mart (who is from Dallas), Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton....but I still say UH has bigger names.

We have very little to offer - Jon Contract.......

UH has 3 of the greatest 50 NBA players of all-time. You are correct. No one is competing with UH in this conference. I would put our all-time starting 5 against anyone in the country.

What if there was a rule that none of the 5 players could have played in college within 10 years of each other?

(06-23-2017 10:51 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 10:48 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 09:04 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:53 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 08:37 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  And by power players do you mean post players? Cause Clyde the Glide had no power game...

I use the term "Power" as that to describe greatness also.

Oh okay. Then I guess those schools can compete with the Big O, K-Mart (who is from Dallas), Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton....but I still say UH has bigger names.

We have very little to offer - Jon Contract.......

UH has 3 of the greatest 50 NBA players of all-time. You are correct. No one is competing with UH in this conference. I would put our all-time starting 5 against anyone in the country.

What if there was a rule that none of the 5 players could have played in college within 10 years of each other?

sustained glory! which is going to be the title of my memoirs until i think of something better

(06-23-2017 10:19 AM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:22 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I forgot to put up my 5.

I think I would go with
PG Shaq Harrison
SG Steve "Silk" Harris
SF Shea Seals
PF Eric Coley
PF Michael Ruffin

Bench:
PG Greg Harrington
SG Jim "Country" King
SF Bob "Bingo" Smith
PF David Shelton
C Brandon Kurtz

It would give me a good mix of pts, rebounds, assists, blocks, and defense.

Did you accidently delete Paul Pressey?

Lol yeah. He would probably take the SF spot on the second team and I'd move up Shelton in place of Kurtz

(06-23-2017 10:48 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  UH has 3 of the greatest 50 NBA players of all-time. You are correct. No one is competing with UH in this conference. I would put our all-time starting 5 against anyone in the country.

What criteria are we all using? You could look at it in terms of college only, NBA only, or everything combined -- which could include high school, ABA, Olympics, international basketball, etc.

Houston's top 3 is as good as anyone's, I agree. For a full roster or even a starting 5 though, it would be tough to beat North Carolina -- http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv...ollege=unc

By the way, the link I posted above -- you can look at every player who has played in the NBA from a particular college and rank them by career stats. Pretty neat research tool, especially for this type of discussion.

UCLA is another school with a pretty insane list: http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv...llege=ucla

A team starting Kareem, Westbrook, and Reggie Miller would be almost unstoppable.

(06-23-2017 11:06 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 10:19 AM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:22 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  I forgot to put up my 5.

I think I would go with
PG Shaq Harrison
SG Steve "Silk" Harris
SF Shea Seals
PF Eric Coley
PF Michael Ruffin

Bench:
PG Greg Harrington
SG Jim "Country" King
SF Bob "Bingo" Smith
PF David Shelton
C Brandon Kurtz

It would give me a good mix of pts, rebounds, assists, blocks, and defense.

Did you accidently delete Paul Pressey?

Lol yeah. He would probably take the SF spot on the second team and I'd move up Shelton in place of Kurtz

Paul Pressey is by far the best all-around player I've seen in a TU jersey. Scoring, rebounding, assists, defense, he could do it all.