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Dissolve Illinois?
Related to the thread the other day, this writer proposes dissolving Illinois into the adjoining states. I don't know that I'd go for that if I lived in one of those states, thoughts?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colum...olumn.html

Illinois is like Venezuela now, a fiscally broken state that has lost its will to live, although for the moment, we still have enough toilet paper.

But before we run out of the essentials, let's finally admit that after decade upon decade of taxing and spending and borrowing, Illinois has finally run out of other people's money.

Those "other people" include taxpayers who've abandoned the state. And now Illinois faces doomsday.

So as the politicians meet in Springfield this week for another round of posturing and gesturing and blaming, we need a plan.

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06-21-2017 05:30 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
what would be the net gain???

they ****** themselves.....

other lib states will follow soon....

**** 'em all....
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06-21-2017 05:32 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Time to katy bar the door.
06-21-2017 05:52 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
I guess I simply didn't catch much of it but I didn't know things were THAT bad.
06-21-2017 05:56 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
California has huge problems with the state pension fund and now the push for state funded single payer, I could see CA in the same spot soon enough.
06-21-2017 05:59 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
(06-21-2017 05:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I guess I simply didn't catch much of it but I didn't know things were THAT bad.

Their bond rating is a single level above "junk". The next lowest state is like 7 levels above that.

They havent been paying lottery winners, and are about to lose the megamillions and powerball if they fail to make a $30million payment by June 30th.

This is the first state where the out of control pension plans will likely have to be seriously reworked both for now, and going forward.

And in all of this, the democratic house did not pass a budget for this year. (The senate did). There are some painful things that have to happen, and they dont want to vote to do it.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
California is next.
06-21-2017 06:02 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
They just need a state property tax with a large homestead exemption. There is plenty of wealth in Chicago. A budget is a necessity though.
06-21-2017 06:03 PM
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
(06-21-2017 06:01 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(06-21-2017 05:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I guess I simply didn't catch much of it but I didn't know things were THAT bad.

Their bond rating is a single level above "junk". The next lowest state is like 7 levels above that.

They havent been paying lottery winners, and are about to lose the megamillions and powerball if they fail to make a $30million payment by June 30th.

This is the first state where the out of control pension plans will likely have to be seriously reworked both for now, and going forward.

And in all of this, the democratic house did not pass a budget for this year. (The senate did). There are some painful things that have to happen, and they dont want to vote to do it.

Wow!

I did not know that.

Thank you
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Madiganistan.

The Speaker holds more power than the Governor.

Speaker since 1983. Only two years in that span where he wasn't. His daughter is AG. Let that sink in.

IL is fu**ed. I live here against my will now. Gotta get out now.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
If Abbott Labs wants to move its HQ to Mpls, we'll gladly have em.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Would Missouri really want East Saint Louis?

Since this is a sports board:

NIU - Southern Wisconsin
UIC - Wisconsin-Chicago
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EIU - Purdue-Charleston
ISU - Indiana-Normal
SIUE - Missouri-Edwardsville
SIU - Kentucky A&M
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Illinois, the home of Barack Obama, is the showcase of what decades of liberal Democratic leadership will lead to. Broke...,
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Because Chicago Public Schools didn't receive their funding from the State of Illinois they had to borrow $275 million to finish out this school year and paying Loan Shark rates of over 6%.

https://fixedincome.fidelity.com/ftgw/fi...65e6_110.1
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
You know what this is leading to..... State of Illinois will go crying and begging to Washington for a Bail Out.

"Give Illinois money or people will DIE!!!"

Trump ought to say HELL NO.

If the Feds Bail Out Illinois then California, New York, and Massachusetts will be next and wont be forced to make the hard choices at the State Level to correct their mess. They will just keep on doing the same fiscal insanity.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
Bailed out Automakers. Bailed out Wall St.

Guessing they'd bail out ILL, if needed.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
It's the 5th largest economy in the United States...

And it's going out of business...

During a stock market experiencing record highs...

Top notch.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
(06-21-2017 09:32 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Illinois, the home of Barack Obama, is the showcase of what decades of liberal Democratic leadership will lead to. Broke...,
Home of Hillary too.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
And New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Mass are on deck.
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RE: Dissolve Illinois?
(06-21-2017 06:03 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  They just need a state property tax with a large homestead exemption. There is plenty of wealth in Chicago. A budget is a necessity though.

You think a state property tax on top of a county property tax is a solution (not including local municipal add in).
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