Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

....not a snowball's in hades....

been trying to tell you guys that from my first post on this dipshite board....

the numbers are overwhelming....

you can't fight the numbers en macro....

(06-22-2017 12:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

you really don't have a ******* clue....

enjoy hangin' with the rags.....

(06-22-2017 02:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

you really don't have a ******* clue....

enjoy hangin' with the rags.....

Yep.

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

Too expensive. Too much work.

Unless you mean that you want more white people on welfare?


One kid is just fine. If you choose not to have any kids, also fine. Two max.

(06-22-2017 03:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

Too expensive. Too much work.

Unless you mean that you want more white people on welfare?

One kid is just fine. If you choose not to have any kids, also fine. Two max.

I'd prefer that we have as few people on welfare as possible. That means that we need to continue to be the majority in this country. Yes there will be white trash but whites are far and away less likely to be on the government dole.

I've got a 3rd on the way. Planning on more, possibly several more.

(06-22-2017 03:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

Too expensive. Too much work.

Unless you mean that you want more white people on welfare?


One kid is just fine. If you choose not to have any kids, also fine. Two max.

Replacement rate is 2.1. Anything less and the population declines. As long as they can afford their kids, who are you to say "2 max"?

(06-22-2017 03:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

Too expensive. Too much work.

Unless you mean that you want more white people on welfare?

One kid is just fine. If you choose not to have any kids, also fine. Two max.

I'd prefer that we have as few people on welfare as possible. That means that we need to continue to be the majority in this country. Yes there will be white trash but whites are far and away less likely to be on the government dole.

I've got a 3rd on the way. Planning on more, possibly several more.

Ditto, 3rd on the way, hoping for more, but the wife is 35 and it took us 6 years to get #2 whereas #1 and #3 fertilized the first month trying so who knows.

(06-22-2017 03:48 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 03:21 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 11:37 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Whites need to start having a lot more children.

Too expensive. Too much work.

Unless you mean that you want more white people on welfare?

One kid is just fine. If you choose not to have any kids, also fine. Two max.

I'd prefer that we have as few people on welfare as possible. That means that we need to continue to be the majority in this country. Yes there will be white trash but whites are far and away less likely to be on the government dole.

I've got a 3rd on the way. Planning on more, possibly several more.

Ditto, 3rd on the way, hoping for more, but the wife is 35 and it took us 6 years to get #2 whereas #1 and #3 fertilized the first month trying so who knows.

We're 38 and 39. We tried forever and thought we wouldn't be able to have kids so she had IVF for the 1st a few years back. Then boom! suddenly we became fertile. #2 and #3 will be 13 months apart. Got a few on ice right now that we plan on giving a chance at life soon after #3.

(06-22-2017 09:15 AM)fsquid Wrote:  UK doesn't bother me. STill a better chance of me getting T-boned by some distracted driver here in the US than a terrorist. Plus, I know a guy from Millwall

Move to the UK and you have a better chance of getting killed by a terrorist than getting t-boned by an alleged distracted driver.

(06-22-2017 03:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  That means that we need to continue to be the majority in this country.

Who's "we"? You can't birth a conservative. It's not DNA controlled.

(06-22-2017 03:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I've got a 3rd on the way. Planning on more, possibly several more.

As long as you can afford it, more power to ya.

(06-22-2017 03:38 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Replacement rate is 2.1. Anything less and the population declines. As long as they can afford their kids, who are you to say "2 max"?

You can be that extra 0.1, all you want. Knock yourself out. I did my part to keep the population under control. A small population decrease hurts nothing, already got plenty of people.

(06-22-2017 10:13 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 07:57 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Birth rate among German women is 1.39.

I'm correct then, they aren't disappearing.

Wow.

(06-22-2017 02:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

you really don't have a ******* clue....

enjoy hangin' with the rags.....

I lived in Dearborn for 20 years. So tell me again how I don't have a clue about that city/community.

What's funny is that I was pretty critical of Muslim non-assimilation in Europe (jabbing Merkel in the process) and said that the US did a better job in blending them in, at least thus far.

But I suppose anything less than "kill 'em all!" in this corner of the forum is considered cuckish/liberal.

Carry on.

(06-22-2017 12:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

Count me in the camp that does not trust ANY immigrant from known terrorist states today. I understand your point..but..NOW...We can not afford to let these people in the country. If we can't learn from the mistakes we see being made in Europe?...We will suffer the exact same consequences. These people do not want to assimilate. They want to dominate...with their archaic and oppressive cultures....and...at the taxpayers expense. FCK that.

Europe's problem is they didn't have a plan to integrate these people. They ended up jobless and displaced into high immigration populated ghettos. Just like any other ghetto drugs and crime become the fastest buck in town and the area falls to ****. Being Muslims predisposes them to islamic radicalization and the vitriol and isolation they have received fleeing a war zone has only served to reinforce the radical Islamist propaganda. Sweden is the scariest example of this, they have a real problem.

(06-22-2017 07:34 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 02:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 12:06 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Multi-culturalism can be a good thing, so long as everyone is generally aligned with the basic, overarching values of the nation and reaches some level of assimilation. That's a melting pot. What you don't really want is a salad bowl or an oil/water situation.

The majority of Muslims in Europe are fine, everyday people in regular jobs who ascribe to the national values. But there's enough among the unassimilated minority of that group making things difficult (to put it mildly) across many Western European major cities. And I'm not talking full-blown terrorism here. Views on social norms and gender roles are miles apart, and unfortunately not enough people are subscribing to the Coexist bumper sticker.

America gets this bad stereotype, but Muslims here are far more integrated and bought into local society. Given its population size, if Dearborn MI was housed under Europe, there would be 3 or 4 terrorist attacks in Wayne County alone every year. But aside from some isolated problems, it's been largely peaceful for decades.

Along with east Dearborn, "Little Italy" and "Chinatown" and "Little Havana" tend to be fine, even prosper, because people generally accept the let-others-be tenet and abide by our laws. Granted, two big oceans probably help in protecting our borders from the worst of the worst, more than any immigration policy does. But for some reason - partly exacerbated by Merkel's anything goes policy - 'liberal' Europe seems to have far more issues in getting people to blend together under one flag. Been that way for a long time.

you really don't have a ******* clue....

enjoy hangin' with the rags.....

I lived in Dearborn for 20 years. So tell me again how I don't have a clue about that city/community.

What's funny is that I was pretty critical of Muslim non-assimilation in Europe (jabbing Merkel in the process) and said that the US did a better job in blending them in, at least thus far.

But I suppose anything less than "kill 'em all!" in this corner of the forum is considered cuckish/liberal.

Carry on.

Low energy post dude

There is no reason to bring in any immigrants unless they are sponsored. I don't care if they are white, brown, oriental, or mooslim.

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(06-22-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  There is no reason to bring in any immigrants unless they are sponsored. I don't care if they are white, brown, oriental, or mooslim.

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This.

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(06-22-2017 08:02 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  There is no reason to bring in any immigrants unless they are sponsored. I don't care if they are white, brown, oriental, or mooslim.

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Fully vetted and sponsored. Fine.

(06-21-2017 04:53 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The only time a religious culture gaining the majority of population in a country is a good thing, is if it's Christian.

Considering the ideas of the enlightenment, free speech, freedom of association, legal equality, and the like *CAME OUT OF 17th CENTURY CHRISTIAN EUROPE" yes, yes I would rather be in a Christian nation than a muslim nation.

You do realize in the *most liberal muslim nation* on the planet (Indonesia) if a woman wants to be a police officer she has to pass a virginity test?