Yet another stupid take by Calkins, by whatever form of privilege he still has a job.
Quote:Just look at the 2017 recruiting rankings. Missouri is ranked No. 8, Western Kentucky is ranked No. 9, Stanford is ranked No. 14, UNLV is ranked No. 15 and LSU is ranked No. 16. Western Kentucky (Rick Stansbury), Stanford (Jerod Haase) and UNLV (Marvin Menzies) all have coaches who were hired the same year that Memphis hired Smith. Missouri (Cuonzo Martin) and LSU (Will Wade) have coaches who were hired within the last few months.
There is so much wrong with this logic. It hurts me. I see nonsense like this daily. On paper, it looks like a reasonable argument. This quote from AQR explains this type of broken logic. [1]
Quote:Once again, we find less going on than first meets the eye. Let me try a sports analogy. It’s always interesting to report who won the Super Bowl. But, it’s not at all interesting to report that someone won the Super Bowl. Now, it would indeed be interesting to report if the winning team did something truly outsized like post a 19-0 record for the season. A lot of the reporting of the FANGs returns has a strong whiff of a 19-0 season when statistically it turns out much more like reporting that, yet again, the Super Bowl indeed had a winner. Remember, if you go looking explicitly for extremes you’re usually going to find them. The question then becomes, how extreme are the extremes this time around compared to the extremes you normally expect to find?
If you look for extremes over one year, you typically going to find them. It doesn't mean they are relevant to the situation or have any tangible predictive quality. Look at Mississippi State, they are 65 this year. They had a top 10 class in 2016. Recruiting rankings are going to have large amounts variance between years. One player can be the difference between being in the 30s and the 60s. Butler is a good example of that.
I much prefer to look at the results on the court, rather than get all upset over bad analysis.
(06-21-2017 08:53 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Yet another stupid take by Calkins, by whatever form of privilege he still has a job.
Quote:Just look at the 2017 recruiting rankings. Missouri is ranked No. 8, Western Kentucky is ranked No. 9, Stanford is ranked No. 14, UNLV is ranked No. 15 and LSU is ranked No. 16. Western Kentucky (Rick Stansbury), Stanford (Jerod Haase) and UNLV (Marvin Menzies) all have coaches who were hired the same year that Memphis hired Smith. Missouri (Cuonzo Martin) and LSU (Will Wade) have coaches who were hired within the last few months.
There is so much wrong with this logic. It hurts me. I see nonsense like this daily. On paper, it looks like a reasonable argument. This quote from AQR explains this type of broken logic. [1]
Quote:Once again, we find less going on than first meets the eye. Let me try a sports analogy. It’s always interesting to report who won the Super Bowl. But, it’s not at all interesting to report that someone won the Super Bowl. Now, it would indeed be interesting to report if the winning team did something truly outsized like post a 19-0 record for the season. A lot of the reporting of the FANGs returns has a strong whiff of a 19-0 season when statistically it turns out much more like reporting that, yet again, the Super Bowl indeed had a winner. Remember, if you go looking explicitly for extremes you’re usually going to find them. The question then becomes, how extreme are the extremes this time around compared to the extremes you normally expect to find?
If you look for extremes over one year, you typically going to find them. It doesn't mean they are relevant to the situation or have any tangible predictive quality. Look at Mississippi State, they are 65 this year. They had a top 10 class in 2016. Recruiting rankings are going to have large amounts variance between years. One player can be the difference between being in the 30s and the 60s. Butler is a good example of that.
I much prefer to look at the results on the court, rather than get all upset over bad analysis.
His way hasn't won big in YEARS !! When was the last year he went to elite 8 or even sweet 16 ? We will rue the day!! Like Calkins said -"refusing to do what it takes". Like I have said before, dereliction of duty. I bet he is yelling FORE, somewhere, even as we speak.
Well, we don't have to go far to see the OLD SCHOOL values....just look at Coach Norvell and our football program. It is built on FAMILY values and if you become a problem....you are gone...i.e. Oglesby and Prewitt.
(06-21-2017 10:12 AM)TG4 Wrote: Here we go again. Just let the man do his job and give it a rest unless he fails. Good Lord.
Are your referring to Tubby or Calkins? Calkins takes a beating around here, after all, for doing his job (in an award-winning capacity).
It is almost like someone saying Lebron sucks at basketball since he isn't on their team. I disregard anyone who claims Calkins is bad at his job, it is ridiculous.
(06-21-2017 08:53 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: Yet another stupid take by Calkins, by whatever form of privilege he still has a job.
Quote:Just look at the 2017 recruiting rankings. Missouri is ranked No. 8, Western Kentucky is ranked No. 9, Stanford is ranked No. 14, UNLV is ranked No. 15 and LSU is ranked No. 16. Western Kentucky (Rick Stansbury), Stanford (Jerod Haase) and UNLV (Marvin Menzies) all have coaches who were hired the same year that Memphis hired Smith. Missouri (Cuonzo Martin) and LSU (Will Wade) have coaches who were hired within the last few months.
There is so much wrong with this logic. It hurts me. I see nonsense like this daily. On paper, it looks like a reasonable argument. This quote from AQR explains this type of broken logic. [1]
Quote:Once again, we find less going on than first meets the eye. Let me try a sports analogy. It’s always interesting to report who won the Super Bowl. But, it’s not at all interesting to report that someone won the Super Bowl. Now, it would indeed be interesting to report if the winning team did something truly outsized like post a 19-0 record for the season. A lot of the reporting of the FANGs returns has a strong whiff of a 19-0 season when statistically it turns out much more like reporting that, yet again, the Super Bowl indeed had a winner. Remember, if you go looking explicitly for extremes you’re usually going to find them. The question then becomes, how extreme are the extremes this time around compared to the extremes you normally expect to find?
If you look for extremes over one year, you typically going to find them. It doesn't mean they are relevant to the situation or have any tangible predictive quality. Look at Mississippi State, they are 65 this year. They had a top 10 class in 2016. Recruiting rankings are going to have large amounts variance between years. One player can be the difference between being in the 30s and the 60s. Butler is a good example of that.
I much prefer to look at the results on the court, rather than get all upset over bad analysis.
Maybe we should have hired his dad?
While it nice to hear about Tubby's past, those values are not taught in a lot of homes these days.
Most of these players are not familiar with the values and discipline that Tubby grew up with.
If he can instill those values, and have a winning season, then I would be happy.
Kids these days are too selfish, and most only motivated by material things, and instant gratification/fame.
I think Tubby will eventually have a winning season, but still will lack what most of the fans and posters want.
(06-21-2017 11:03 AM)DallasTiger Wrote: Well, we don't have to go far to see the OLD SCHOOL values....just look at Coach Norvell and our football program. It is built on FAMILY values and if you become a problem....you are gone...i.e. Oglesby and Prewitt.
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Calkins' Column "Can Tubby Smith's Old-School Values Win Big Today?"
