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(08-22-2017 07:54 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 06:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Dayum!

Quote:Report: Cavaliers, Celtics agree to trade centered around Kyrie Irving, Isaiah Thomas
Cleveland gets an All-Star point guard and a bevvy of assets in return for Irving

The Cleveland Cavaliers and Boston Celtics have agreed to a trade that will send Kyrie Irving to Boston in exchange for Isaiah Thomas, according to Shams Charania of The Vertical. Cleveland will also receive Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and Brooklyn's 2018 first-round pick in the deal.

CBS Sports will continue updating this breaking news story as necessary.

Kyrie Traded

GM LeBron alienates another team....teammate...

Unless this brokers other moves by the Cavs I don't think it makes them better than the Warriors.

Agree but I feel the Cavs still improved overall from this trade now and in the future. Thomas is no slouch to score but the addition of Crowder helps them on defense and he can shoot the trey. They also picked up a potential lottery pick from Brooklyn. They traded one guy, albeit Kyrie, and got 3 players in return in addition to the draft pick.
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RE: 2017-18 NBA thread: off season
(08-22-2017 07:54 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Unless this brokers other moves by the Cavs I don't think it makes them better than the Warriors.

My first thought was, are the Cavs possibly going to flip that Brooklyn 1st-round pick to a team who will send the Cavs someone who can help them this year.

I can't think of any available player who would fit that bill -- though I bet if Cleveland had had that pick a few months ago, the Pacers would have happily taken it in exchange for Paul George.
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RE: 2017-18 NBA thread: off season
(08-22-2017 08:11 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 07:54 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 06:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Dayum!

Quote:Report: Cavaliers, Celtics agree to trade centered around Kyrie Irving, Isaiah Thomas
Cleveland gets an All-Star point guard and a bevvy of assets in return for Irving

The Cleveland Cavaliers and Boston Celtics have agreed to a trade that will send Kyrie Irving to Boston in exchange for Isaiah Thomas, according to Shams Charania of The Vertical. Cleveland will also receive Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and Brooklyn's 2018 first-round pick in the deal.

CBS Sports will continue updating this breaking news story as necessary.

Kyrie Traded

GM LeBron alienates another team....teammate...

Unless this brokers other moves by the Cavs I don't think it makes them better than the Warriors.

Agree but I feel the Cavs still improved overall from this trade now and in the future. Thomas is no slouch to score but the addition of Crowder helps them on defense and he can shoot the trey. They also picked up a potential lottery pick from Brooklyn. They traded one guy, albeit Kyrie, and got 3 players in return in addition to the draft pick.

Thomas can't defend, so the trade doesn't solve CLE fundamental problem with GSW. This move was just so the Cavs wouldn't be a complete shell of a team when LeBron bounces.
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(08-23-2017 07:53 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Thomas can't defend, so the trade doesn't solve CLE fundamental problem with GSW. This move was just so the Cavs wouldn't be a complete shell of a team when LeBron bounces.

I.T., like LeBron, will be an unrestricted free agent after the upcoming season.

The valuable piece from the trade, if Cleveland does a 76ers-style tank-and-rebuild, is the unprotected Brooklyn 1st round pick, if the Cavs don't use that pick to get a player or players who can help this season.
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Agree this trade is a win for the Cavs only in that they don't get decimated like some of the other recent "forced" trades.

That pick is a thorn in the Lakers' side if the Cavs can pick up somebody that will make LeBron happy.
08-23-2017 01:23 PM
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20467...on-celtics

LOL, that hip injury, the reason the Celtics probably dumped Thomas, is causing him not to meet his physical with the Cavs and now the Cavs want some compensation.
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Cavs knew about IT's condition when the trade was made. But, apparently the NBA trading rules allow them to threaten to cancel the trade, so they're going to take advantage.

Best guess is that the Cavs want to see if Boston wants Kyrie badly enough to throw in a second 1st round draft choice. If the Celtics say no to that, then the Cavs will threaten again to cancel the trade, but will ultimately settle for Boston giving them an additional 2nd round pick.
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(08-27-2017 03:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Cavs knew about IT's condition when the trade was made. But, apparently the NBA trading rules allow them to threaten to cancel the trade, so they're going to take advantage.

Best guess is that the Cavs want to see if Boston wants Kyrie badly enough to throw in a second 1st round draft choice. If the Celtics say no to that, then the Cavs will threaten again to cancel the trade, but will ultimately settle for Boston giving them an additional 2nd round pick.

And that's exactly what happened. No surprise.

Quote:With a Thursday morning deadline looming, the Boston Celtics agreed to send the Cleveland Cavaliers a 2020 second-round draft pick via the Miami Heat to acquire four-time All-Star guard Kyrie Irving and complete the blockbuster trade.

The Celtics resisted the Cavaliers' desire for a first-round pick to compensate the Cavs' reluctance to sign off on Isaiah Thomas' hip injury, and Cleveland finally agreed to consummate the deal late Wednesday night.
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(08-31-2017 12:05 AM)Wedge Wrote:  The Celtics resisted the Cavaliers' desire for a first-round pick to compensate the Cavs' reluctance to sign off on Isaiah Thomas' hip injury, and Cleveland finally agreed to consummate the deal late Wednesday night.
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What a crap show of a trade on both sides...
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i think the rudy gay signing by the spurs is a pretty underrated move. totally a spur guy. would it shock anyone if this turned out to be a durant like acquistion?
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