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RE: Is Georgetown a basketball blue blood?
Yep, can't say the same for a certain fallen college basketball power.
07-16-2017 05:27 PM
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RE: Is Georgetown a basketball blue blood?
(07-16-2017 11:13 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 10:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 06:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 04:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the problem with Georgetown is sure they might be in the top 20, but they are right now for instance tied for 19th in appearances. Before John Thompson got there, they had exactly 1 NCAA and 2 NIT spots. So really of their 47 wins in the NCAA tourney-16th in basketball right now- all but 5 of them came in a period from 1980-2007.

Also, the stretch of long tournament runs that you mention every decade- it's only 3 decades long. 80's, 90's, and 00's.

I like Georgetown- but they are definitely the program that got right place at the right time with the right person with JT and the start of the Big East. Before the 1979-80 season- Georgetown had all of 2 NCAA tourney wins, and those were back in the 1943 tourney.

Before 1960....Nothing
1980 - 1987... Best team in college basketball
1987 - 1997....Elite Program
1997 - 2007... 1 Final Four and a lot of 'meh'
2007 - 2017... Nothing

That Final Four in 2007 was huge for them. Its really all they have to keep them in the discussion as an elite program. But lots of teams have been to 1 Final Four in the last 20 years.

These stats are fine, but again, IMO they don't mean a whole lot. They might explain 'why' a program has a certain brand stature. They don't define that brand stature.

For whatever reason, deserved or not deserved, Georgetown is still a pretty big college basketball brand name. They are in the second tier with schools like Michigan State, Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville, and a handful of others. Doesn't matter what the stats are, or when they were achieved, that's where they are at right now.

If UConn is second tier, who the f*ck is tier one? They've been the best team in college basketball the last 20 years. And no one really has come close to them.

You keep confusing "accomplishments" with "blue blood", which is about brand and stature and historical legacy. No program that won its first title in 1999 can be a blue blood. You might as well say Notre Dame isn't a football blue blood because they haven't won a title in almost 30 years, or Michigan isn't because they've won just one in the past half-century, which would be absurd, as they are still among the biggest brands in football.

Kentucky, Duke, UNC, UCLA, Indiana, and Kansas are the hoops Blue Bloods. Every hoops fan knows that.
07-16-2017 05:34 PM
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RE: Is Georgetown a basketball blue blood?
Why is this such a big deal in the end? Do you get a special key card or some other perk for being a Blue Blood instead of just a great basketball school? This is just another bleeding heart "everyone gets a trophy" kind of title that you all hate but still somehow need to be included in.....

Anyone who follows College Basketball even casually knows who the great programs are right now and historically as well. I highly doubt Alford is walking into a recruit's house with his shiny Blue Blood ring on his finger and winning recruiting battles against Ollie because Ollie doesn't have one of those fancy rings of his own.....

This argument is ALMOST as dumb as the AAC being a P conference....... Actually as I think about it - the AAC is a P conference.......

The P5 is the Devil and the G4 is in heaven - The AAC is in Purgatory
07-17-2017 11:51 AM
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