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RE: New App State video board(s)
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?
07-15-2017 07:14 AM
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(07-15-2017 07:14 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?

There are streams as shallow as 4-5 feet under KBS. Stand by one of the drainage areas and you can hear water running. One stream comes out of the hill just to the left of the West Stands and runs completely under the field. It is all piped down to the Duck Pond. The main reason artificial turf was put down is because the field in old Conrad Stadium stayed wet & soggy. If it rained at all the place turned into a swamp.
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RE: New App State video board(s)
(07-15-2017 07:27 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:14 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?

There are streams as shallow as 4-5 feet under KBS. Stand by one of the drainage areas and you can hear water running. One stream comes out of the hill just to the left of the West Stands and runs completely under the field. It is all piped down to the Duck Pond. The main reason artificial turf was put down is because the field in old Conrad Stadium stayed wet & soggy. If it rained at all the place turned into a swamp.
Hmmmmm...I wonder if we could bottle that water and sell it. We'd make millions. COGS
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(07-15-2017 07:34 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:27 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:14 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?

There are streams as shallow as 4-5 feet under KBS. Stand by one of the drainage areas and you can hear water running. One stream comes out of the hill just to the left of the West Stands and runs completely under the field. It is all piped down to the Duck Pond. The main reason artificial turf was put down is because the field in old Conrad Stadium stayed wet & soggy. If it rained at all the place turned into a swamp.
Hmmmmm...I wonder if we could bottle that water and sell it. We'd make millions. COGS

I think you're on to something! I'm sure it is as pure of spring water as you can find. Just run a pipe into the rocks where it's coming from and sell it at games. Could market it as bottled at the source, The Official Water of The Rock. No truer advertising slogan has ever been devised. Heck, we could even build a real waterfall in that corner of KBS!
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RE: New App State video board(s)
(07-15-2017 07:43 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:34 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:27 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:14 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?

There are streams as shallow as 4-5 feet under KBS. Stand by one of the drainage areas and you can hear water running. One stream comes out of the hill just to the left of the West Stands and runs completely under the field. It is all piped down to the Duck Pond. The main reason artificial turf was put down is because the field in old Conrad Stadium stayed wet & soggy. If it rained at all the place turned into a swamp.
Hmmmmm...I wonder if we could bottle that water and sell it. We'd make millions. COGS

I think you're on to something! I'm sure it is as pure of spring water as you can find. Just run a pipe into the rocks where it's coming from and sell it at games. Could market it as bottled at the source, The Official Water of The Rock. No truer advertising slogan has ever been devised. Heck, we could even build a real waterfall in that corner of KBS!
I'd sure like to see it one day. Who needs P5 television money when you have clear gold?
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RE: New App State video board(s)
(07-15-2017 07:27 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-15-2017 07:14 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 09:53 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  And that's why you're never ever going to see the KBS playing field dug down in an expansion.

Just playing devil's advocate: how much lower would the field need to be in order to expand the stands over where the track is now? Ten feet?

There are streams as shallow as 4-5 feet under KBS. Stand by one of the drainage areas and you can hear water running. One stream comes out of the hill just to the left of the West Stands and runs completely under the field. It is all piped down to the Duck Pond. The main reason artificial turf was put down is because the field in old Conrad Stadium stayed wet & soggy. If it rained at all the place turned into a swamp.

The school has to replace the sod every 2-3 years at Duck Pond Field because once it's water-logged (snow melting, big event, etc) it stays that way.
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So, if the field indeed will never be lowered, does anything change when/if the track is removed? An alternative idea I've read is to shift the field closer to the west stands/student section. The problem with that is that this brand spanking new multi-million dollar video board would be way off center. The East stands also would have to be rebuilt completely, basically built on top of where the track is now.

So what changes to the field should would expect in a post-track Kidd Brewer Stadium?
07-16-2017 08:29 AM
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Building a north endzone complex (premium sitting mostly) and regrade the hill to bring it closer.

There is a wait list for premium seating, not close to maxing out season tickets as a percentage of regular seating. Given the size of our stadium 65% or more should be season ticket holders.

Longer term tear down lower levels of both sides and bring them closer to the field over two years.
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(07-16-2017 08:29 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  So, if the field indeed will never be lowered, does anything change when/if the track is removed? An alternative idea I've read is to shift the field closer to the west stands/student section. The problem with that is that this brand spanking new multi-million dollar video board would be way off center. The East stands also would have to be rebuilt completely, basically built on top of where the track is now.

So what changes to the field should would expect in a post-track Kidd Brewer Stadium?
Had this same discussion with some folks in the Athletics Center last week. Moving the field over is no longer an option. The lower sections on the East Side are crumbling and something has to be done. My fantasy plan would be to take down the upper East stands and rebuild them as one continuous section. Over the lower section landing somewhere about midway on the track. Build South (bank) seating up close to the endzone. Eventually take down the upper West stands and mirror the East side. KBS is in one of the best settings in college football. We just need the quality of the facility to match it.

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RE: New App State video board(s)
(07-16-2017 08:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 08:29 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  So, if the field indeed will never be lowered, does anything change when/if the track is removed? An alternative idea I've read is to shift the field closer to the west stands/student section. The problem with that is that this brand spanking new multi-million dollar video board would be way off center. The East stands also would have to be rebuilt completely, basically built on top of where the track is now.

So what changes to the field should would expect in a post-track Kidd Brewer Stadium?
Had this same discussion with some folks in the Athletics Center last week. Moving the field over is no longer an option. The lower sections on the East Side are crumbling and something has to be done. My fantasy plan would be to take down the upper East stands and rebuild them as one continuous section. Over the lower section landing somewhere about midway on the track. Build South (bank) seating up close to the endzone. Eventually take down the upper West stands and mirror the East side. KBS is in one of the best settings in college football. We just need the quality of the facility to match it.

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Hopefully, the thought of ever building down in Boone, versus up should be put to bed for eternity. The playing field should never move. As Saint mentioned earlier. We need a complete rehaul of the lower stands on each side, as soon as the track is moved, if it ever is. The decision makers are still fighting about what to do with old HS property and everyone wants a piece of it.
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