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RE: Who replaces North Dakota in BIG SKY in 2019?
Yes 3-5 Montana and 2-6 MSU really set the standard

No one begged NoDak to come to the Big Sky ? And EVERYONE was happy to see them go
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(07-16-2017 08:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  Given the recent domination of at-large bids by the P5/6 on Selection Sunday, RPI is meaningless and current one bid conference will remain that way indefinitely. RPI really just gives folks on message boards something to beat their chests about. The reality is all these low RPI one bid conferences aren't much different when it all boils down.

Stu is right in that BSC members need home games, and going 20 games guarantees everyone 10 home games. In the BSC's case, I think that easily trumps the RPI concerns. As a MBB Hornet season ticket holder, I would be fine with this as it guarantees that the programs worth seeing will always be on the slate (even though they have been on the schedule anyways because they need to get in front of CA recruits).

Last season the Big Sky had nine schools with an RPI of over 200. The school with the top RPI is leaving the conference after this season and you think it is a good idea to play a 20 game schedule? I just can't see that the opportunity to have ten league home games in this conference being something anyone wants to see.

RPI is too important to go to 20 games. No one in college basketball is doing it and then add 11 conference tournament games that do nothing for the RPI and you earn a #15 seed and a quick exit from the NCAA tournament. Just makes no sense.
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RE: Who replaces North Dakota in BIG SKY in 2019?
How is this thread still going? The answer to the OP was established many posts ago: no one is going to replace them, any time soon. And Stu seems to have a source saying 20 game conf schedule, which works exactly with 11 members.

Everything else is just you guys breathing life into NoDak's latest and greatest realignment narrative, which serves only to confound people who don't know any better and stumble on the trail of his banter. He's a good poster, unless you get him started and breath life into him on one of his ill-formed theories involving UND, FBS, and other universities west of the Mississippi.

I implore you all ... give it/him/all of us a rest for a while, on that stuff.
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(07-17-2017 01:35 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  and you earn a #15 seed and a quick exit from the NCAA tournament.

So?

Weber or other top Big Sky bball programs that win the tourney essentially have that path anyway. They make it to March Madness, have their mid-day Thurs or Friday first round game, get their 15 seconds, and that's that. That's life in the low-majors.
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(07-17-2017 10:08 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  How is this thread still going? The answer to the OP was established many posts ago: no one is going to replace them, any time soon. And Stu seems to have a source saying 20 game conf schedule, which works exactly with 11 members.

Everything else is just you guys breathing life into NoDak's latest and greatest realignment narrative, which serves only to confound people who don't know any better and stumble on the trail of his banter. He's a good poster, unless you get him started and breath life into him on one of his ill-formed theories involving UND, FBS, and other universities west of the Mississippi.

I implore you all ... give it/him/all of us a rest for a while, on that stuff.

No way. His comments about Billings is pure gold.
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If you could willy-nilly pick up existing conferences, smash them on the ground into pieces like a pane of glass, and then reassemble the pieces as you saw fit ..... then sure, some of what he says does make some sense. A conference that was formed in the 1960's between Gonzaga, EW, Idaho, Idaho St, Boise, Utah St, Montana/State, Wyoming, and the Dakotas, might have worked out very well. Though unfortunate that no major schools in Bismarck, Dickinson/Williston, Pierre, Rapid City, or Billings ...

But you can't. It isn't a thing. So his ideas are basically meaningless.
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RE: Who replaces North Dakota in BIG SKY in 2019?
(07-16-2017 09:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 07:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 01:09 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I don't have much of a dog in the fight, but I do believe that the Big Sky will stay with 11. As far as the whole Summit thing, I do think that we will see the Montanas and the Idahos in the Summit at some point while Fort Wayne and Western Illinois will leave for more travel-friendly pastures. Why would the Idahos and Montanas join the Summit? Brand. State flagships are almost always sexier than most other schools. No one is stopping the Montanas and Idahos from scheduling California, Arizona, or Texas schools in football or basketball during the non-conference portion of their schedules.

The idea has been simmering for generations of Montana and NoDak U presidents, but this board rejects it as ludicrous. When it happens, all the sudden they will think it a brilliant move.

The rest of the Big Sky, excepting Weber St, isn't academically or athletically worthy of the Montanas, Idaho, and EWU, and all their Presidents and fans know it.


1). No. Montana Presidents aren't and haven't pined for Dakotas

2). NAU is the athletic and academic equal or better of any public Slummitt or Big Sky school.

You are having conversations in your mind that don't exist. Must have frozen your brain up there

NAU should have pined for NMSU, and became permanent partners with them would have been a good strategic move. But instead NAU doesn't have any natural ally but SUU. GCU would be one, but NAU rejects them.

The Montanas know better than to look on NAU as a partner, but more as a leech.

Why would we pine for a school 8 hours away when there is one half of that? NMSU had/has no interest in FCS football.

Yes, NAU is such a leech - funds 25% more scholarships in all sports than the Montana schools, is actually good at other sports, continually finishes ahead of them (usually winning) the All-Sports Trophy, and has the only team National Championship in Big Sky history - and in one that 95% of DI schools compete in, not a niche sport like Hockey.

Plus more individual national championships than EWU, Montana and Montana State combined.


Yeah, leeches.



But go back to moving your goal posts, and your fantasies about when happened in your basement with non-existent people when you were a kid.
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RE: Who replaces North Dakota in BIG SKY in 2019?
(07-17-2017 11:42 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 07:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 01:09 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I don't have much of a dog in the fight, but I do believe that the Big Sky will stay with 11. As far as the whole Summit thing, I do think that we will see the Montanas and the Idahos in the Summit at some point while Fort Wayne and Western Illinois will leave for more travel-friendly pastures. Why would the Idahos and Montanas join the Summit? Brand. State flagships are almost always sexier than most other schools. No one is stopping the Montanas and Idahos from scheduling California, Arizona, or Texas schools in football or basketball during the non-conference portion of their schedules.

The idea has been simmering for generations of Montana and NoDak U presidents, but this board rejects it as ludicrous. When it happens, all the sudden they will think it a brilliant move.

The rest of the Big Sky, excepting Weber St, isn't academically or athletically worthy of the Montanas, Idaho, and EWU, and all their Presidents and fans know it.


1). No. Montana Presidents aren't and haven't pined for Dakotas

2). NAU is the athletic and academic equal or better of any public Slummitt or Big Sky school.

You are having conversations in your mind that don't exist. Must have frozen your brain up there

NAU should have pined for NMSU, and became permanent partners with them would have been a good strategic move. But instead NAU doesn't have any natural ally but SUU. GCU would be one, but NAU rejects them.

The Montanas know better than to look on NAU as a partner, but more as a leech.

Why would we pine for a school 8 hours away when there is one half of that? NMSU had/has no interest in FCS football.

Yes, NAU is such a leech - funds 25% more scholarships in all sports than the Montana schools, is actually good at other sports, continually finishes ahead of them (usually winning) the All-Sports Trophy, and has the only team National Championship in Big Sky history - and in one that 95% of DI schools compete in, not a niche sport like Hockey.

Plus more individual national championships than EWU, Montana and Montana State combined.


Yeah, leeches.



But go back to moving your goal posts, and your fantasies about when happened in your basement with non-existent people when you were a kid.

Obviously talking about a team Natty that isn't a FCS football Natty...?
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RE: Who replaces North Dakota in BIG SKY in 2019?
(07-17-2017 11:42 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 07:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 01:09 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I don't have much of a dog in the fight, but I do believe that the Big Sky will stay with 11. As far as the whole Summit thing, I do think that we will see the Montanas and the Idahos in the Summit at some point while Fort Wayne and Western Illinois will leave for more travel-friendly pastures. Why would the Idahos and Montanas join the Summit? Brand. State flagships are almost always sexier than most other schools. No one is stopping the Montanas and Idahos from scheduling California, Arizona, or Texas schools in football or basketball during the non-conference portion of their schedules.

The idea has been simmering for generations of Montana and NoDak U presidents, but this board rejects it as ludicrous. When it happens, all the sudden they will think it a brilliant move.

The rest of the Big Sky, excepting Weber St, isn't academically or athletically worthy of the Montanas, Idaho, and EWU, and all their Presidents and fans know it.


1). No. Montana Presidents aren't and haven't pined for Dakotas

2). NAU is the athletic and academic equal or better of any public Slummitt or Big Sky school.

You are having conversations in your mind that don't exist. Must have frozen your brain up there

NAU should have pined for NMSU, and became permanent partners with them would have been a good strategic move. But instead NAU doesn't have any natural ally but SUU. GCU would be one, but NAU rejects them.

The Montanas know better than to look on NAU as a partner, but more as a leech.

Why would we pine for a school 8 hours away when there is one half of that? NMSU had/has no interest in FCS football.

Yes, NAU is such a leech - funds 25% more scholarships in all sports than the Montana schools, is actually good at other sports, continually finishes ahead of them (usually winning) the All-Sports Trophy, and has the only team National Championship in Big Sky history - and in one that 95% of DI schools compete in, not a niche sport like Hockey.

Plus more individual national championships than EWU, Montana and Montana State combined.


Yeah, leeches.



But go back to moving your goal posts, and your fantasies about when happened in your basement with non-existent people when you were a kid.

Obviously talking about a team Natty that isn't a FCS football Natty...?
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(07-17-2017 12:51 PM)SactoHornetAlum Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 11:42 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 09:56 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 07:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 06:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The idea has been simmering for generations of Montana and NoDak U presidents, but this board rejects it as ludicrous. When it happens, all the sudden they will think it a brilliant move.

The rest of the Big Sky, excepting Weber St, isn't academically or athletically worthy of the Montanas, Idaho, and EWU, and all their Presidents and fans know it.


1). No. Montana Presidents aren't and haven't pined for Dakotas

2). NAU is the athletic and academic equal or better of any public Slummitt or Big Sky school.

You are having conversations in your mind that don't exist. Must have frozen your brain up there

NAU should have pined for NMSU, and became permanent partners with them would have been a good strategic move. But instead NAU doesn't have any natural ally but SUU. GCU would be one, but NAU rejects them.

The Montanas know better than to look on NAU as a partner, but more as a leech.

Why would we pine for a school 8 hours away when there is one half of that? NMSU had/has no interest in FCS football.

Yes, NAU is such a leech - funds 25% more scholarships in all sports than the Montana schools, is actually good at other sports, continually finishes ahead of them (usually winning) the All-Sports Trophy, and has the only team National Championship in Big Sky history - and in one that 95% of DI schools compete in, not a niche sport like Hockey.

Plus more individual national championships than EWU, Montana and Montana State combined.


Yeah, leeches.



But go back to moving your goal posts, and your fantasies about when happened in your basement with non-existent people when you were a kid.

Obviously talking about a team Natty that isn't a FCS football Natty...?

Yes and no - it is not an all-Division championship. Crucial difference
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