Pitino gets 5 game ban.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketb...ons-061517

so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

EDIT: I misread...it's four scholarships over the 4 years, not 4 per year. That's a slap on the wrist.

So we're supposed to pretend this didn't happen?

(06-15-2017 10:58 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  EDIT: I misread...it's four scholarships over the 4 years, not 4 per year. That's a slap on the wrist.

if they take the title, and lose all the NCAA money from 2012-2015 on top of the scholarships (plus a 5 game suspension for RP)...that's not a slap on the wrist.

(06-15-2017 10:58 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  EDIT: I misread...it's four scholarships over the 4 years, not 4 per year. That's a slap on the wrist.

If they have to vacate those seasons I think it would mean they vacate the national championship. I wouldn't call that a slap on the wrist.

I wonder if this will hasten Pitino's retirement?

I'm just glad we threw those cheaters out of the AAC, lol.

unless the ineligible player is Ware (broke his leg in Elite Eight) I don't see how UL could keep the banner...they played 9 in the Final Four and title game...Ware is the only big player who didn't play.

(06-15-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

(06-15-2017 11:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  unless the ineligible player is Ware (broke his leg in Elite Eight) I don't see how UL could keep the banner...they played 9 in the Final Four and title game...Ware is the only big player who didn't play.

If Ware (a UCF commit, UL stole via trumped up NCAA allegations) caused all this damaged, I'd feel slightly better.

(06-15-2017 11:17 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

(06-15-2017 11:27 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  unless the ineligible player is Ware (broke his leg in Elite Eight) I don't see how UL could keep the banner...they played 9 in the Final Four and title game...Ware is the only big player who didn't play.

If Ware (a UCF commit, UL stole via trumped up NCAA allegations) caused all this damaged, I'd feel slightly better.

but even if it is Ware, if UL had not used in ineligible player in rounds 1-Elite Eight...they never would have been in the Final Four.

I don't see how the NCAA could let them keep the title banner from 2013 and the FF banner from 2012

(06-15-2017 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:17 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

(06-15-2017 11:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:17 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

(06-15-2017 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:17 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so they will have to vacate their NCAA title? interesting...

They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

You can put as many GIFs as you want with the number of F4s Memphis has, but I don't see how that helps to provide any answers.

(06-15-2017 11:36 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:17 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  They beat WSU in that F4. WSU will remove the loss, but not the chance at a title. Bummer. That game was the de facto title game.

I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

You can put as many GIFs as you want with the number of F4s Memphis has, but I don't see how that helps to provide any answers.

do you really think taking a banner 4 years down the line is somehow justice?

I find it amusing the NCAA 'vacated' Memphis' Final Four yet you can still pay the NCAA and CBS 20 bucks for the game DVD.

with this system of justice in place is there really any reason to follow the rules?

(06-15-2017 11:40 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:36 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:28 AM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  I might be wrong, but I don't think you "remove the loss". That loss is still recognized by the NCAA, just UL's victory isn't.

Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

You can put as many GIFs as you want with the number of F4s Memphis has, but I don't see how that helps to provide any answers.

do you really think taking a banner 4 years down the line is somehow justice?

I find it amusing the NCAA 'vacated' Memphis' Final Four yet you can still pay the NCAA and CBS 20 bucks for the game DVD.

with this system of justice in place is there really any reason to follow the rules?

Ethics? A sense of pride? Wanting to mold your players into good human beings?

(06-15-2017 11:47 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:40 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:36 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:33 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 11:31 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Ah. I think you are right. Maybe one of the Memphis fans can confirm. They have a lot of experience with it.

You can put as many GIFs as you want with the number of F4s Memphis has, but I don't see how that helps to provide any answers.

do you really think taking a banner 4 years down the line is somehow justice?

I find it amusing the NCAA 'vacated' Memphis' Final Four yet you can still pay the NCAA and CBS 20 bucks for the game DVD.

with this system of justice in place is there really any reason to follow the rules?

Ethics? A sense of pride? Wanting to mold your players into good human beings?

The NCAA has made it clear they do not value those things...why should we if we want to continue to exist in their system?

when cheaters win and honest teams struggle...why continue to swim against the stream?

(06-15-2017 11:08 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 10:58 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  EDIT: I misread...it's four scholarships over the 4 years, not 4 per year. That's a slap on the wrist.

If they have to vacate those seasons I think it would mean they vacate the national championship. I wouldn't call that a slap on the wrist.

I wonder if this will hasten Pitino's retirement?

I'm just glad we threw those cheaters out of the AAC, lol.

Unless they are doing a Dollhouse-style mind wipe of every college basketball fan in America, vacating a National Championship means absolutely nothing. The only sanctions that actually affect a program are ones that affect AFTER they're levied, not before. Historical revocations mean nothing to the schools...everything already happens and the fans will always remember it, it's simply an easy way out for the NCAA. If they did something, ANYTHING, to affect the future of the program, then it would be more than a slap on the wrist IMO.

And don't tell me the scholarship reduction is a big thing either. UL already has 2 of the four scholarships closed off, so they need to take two scholarships off the books in a four year span. If they recruit one kid with a decent GPA/ACT, they'll just give him institutional money to offset for one year and everything will be a-ok.

Money Talks and Louisville has plenty of it they will get some good lawyers

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