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(06-13-2017 06:43 PM)Ranger Wrote:  If my memory serves me well, CSC was not selected until the seventh of eighth round, both times.

Yup. One of the great head scratchers.
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Congrats to Gray on becoming a Pirate. I will be curious to see what he decides to do..
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Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.
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(06-14-2017 11:47 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.

I think I am going to have to agree with you on this. One thing that could influence this however would be the outcome of Graham's meeting with Karlgaard on his status.
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(06-14-2017 11:47 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.

100%
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(06-14-2017 11:53 AM)TJS_NYC Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:47 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.

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Yes. Otto, Myers, Gray are signing.
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(06-14-2017 11:55 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:53 AM)TJS_NYC Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:47 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.

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Yes. Otto, Myers, Gray are signing.

Some of you probably have more insight into this than I do, and we've talked about costs/scholarships elsewhere, but consider the following:
The average of tuition, room and board for the last 3 years has been $55,153/year. Assuming a 50% scholarship (does it cover just tuition, or everything?), that means that the parents of a player who has been at Rice for 3 years have invested almost $83K ($55,153 x 50% x 3) in the college endeavor. Given the small percentage of minor league players that actually make it to the bigs, it seems like a big investment to walk away from (although I guess they could always come back - but then they're paying full freight down the road). Sure, the signing bonus sometimes covers it but that also brings income taxes into play. Just wondering - as college costs continue to escalate, for how many parents (of even the great players) does it make economic sense to send a promising player to Rice, when (especially if in TX) instead could just play for a state school and get just as much exposure to MLB scouts. So, if they have the talent to get drafted after 3 years and are otherwise inclined to leave, what is the parents' rationale to make the large upfront investment at Rice vis-a-vis UT or A&M? Of course, if the talent doesn't transfer and not drafted, then they have at least stayed 4 years and received a discounted Rice degree.
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(06-14-2017 12:19 PM)TJS_NYC Wrote:  (although I guess they could always come back - but then they're paying full freight down the road).

AFAIK, the standard CBA contract requires the team pay for school through the completion of a bachelors if done within X years of retirement from baseball.

e: found it:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/scholarship.jsp

And no requirement. Terms are negotiated, but you can certainly negotiate better terms than you're currently getting from your school.
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(06-14-2017 12:19 PM)TJS_NYC Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:55 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:53 AM)TJS_NYC Wrote:  
(06-14-2017 11:47 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Though this topic has been discussed quite a bit recently, I think he signs.

100%

Yes. Otto, Myers, Gray are signing.

Some of you probably have more insight into this than I do, and we've talked about costs/scholarships elsewhere, but consider the following:
The average of tuition, room and board for the last 3 years has been $55,153/year. Assuming a 50% scholarship (does it cover just tuition, or everything?), that means that the parents of a player who has been at Rice for 3 years have invested almost $83K ($55,153 x 50% x 3) in the college endeavor. Given the small percentage of minor league players that actually make it to the bigs, it seems like a big investment to walk away from (although I guess they could always come back - but then they're paying full freight down the road). Sure, the signing bonus sometimes covers it but that also brings income taxes into play. Just wondering - as college costs continue to escalate, for how many parents (of even the great players) does it make economic sense to send a promising player to Rice, when (especially if in TX) instead could just play for a state school and get just as much exposure to MLB scouts. So, if they have the talent to get drafted after 3 years and are otherwise inclined to leave, what is the parents' rationale to make the large upfront investment at Rice vis-a-vis UT or A&M? Of course, if the talent doesn't transfer and not drafted, then they have at least stayed 4 years and received a discounted Rice degree.

Plus all the money they've invested in said player's development from tee ball to travel teams. I believe that MLB will reimburse a player for any future college costs (the amount subject to the player's individual contract), provided that they resume their studies no later than a few years after they retire from baseball. So I would imagine that any of these guys will not be paying full sticker price, if they choose to finish their degree.

Theoretically, if a player were talented enough, they really should go to a high profile JUCO and get drafted after one year. But to answer your last question (re: state school versus Rice), I don't think that's entirely dissimilar from a parent asking whether their non-athlete HS student should go to a private school versus a state school - just depends on whether they think the juice is worth the squeeze.
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Plus, if they have done enough upper level credits during their three years at Rice, they can go anywhere they want (so long as Rice will accept their individual classes for transfer credit) and still cop that giant sheepskin.
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