Absolutely devastating to Trump. It's like we live in two parallel universes. Comparing it all to Nixon. No evidence Nixon broke in to the hotel either. His actions afterwards is what did him in as it will he with Trump.

You may need meds. I like you though so I'm pulling for you.

You can't hurt Trump. He's a proud liar and his supporters are proud of his lies.

They all hook on Comey as a leaker. My mother in law just came into the room and said can you believe that a Comey is the leaker. Was John Dean a leaker? It's absurd.

What again was devastating to Trump? Was it that Comey confirmed that the media was lying and Trump wasnt under invesitgation? Was it that Comey confirmed that there is no evidence of Russian collusion? Was it that Comey admitted he illegally and unethically leaked stuff. Was it that Comey confirmed what we all knew, that Loretta Lynch was obstructing justice?

Or maybe they were talking about some other tidbit I missed being damaging to Trump. What wait it again?

(06-11-2017 10:07 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  You can't hurt Trump. He's a proud liar and his supporters are proud of his lies.

And I'm all for starving black, Latino and Muslim babies. Crap, let's get rid of the Italians too.

(06-11-2017 11:16 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 10:07 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  You can't hurt Trump. He's a proud liar and his supporters are proud of his lies.

And I'm all for starving black, Latino and Muslim babies. Crap, let's get rid of the Italians too.

I'd help you round them up later. I'm already scheduled to throw some gays off of tall buildings this morning.

(06-11-2017 09:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Absolutely devastating to Trump. It's like we live in two parallel universes. Comparing it all to Nixon. No evidence Nixon broke in to the hotel either. His actions afterwards is what did him in as it will he with Trump.

I agree it is like you are living in a different universe.

Seriously though, nothing devastating came out from Comey. It went about as well as it could for Trump. He's In the clear.

He asked Comey for loyalty and to lay off Flynn. When he continued the investigation he was fired. Text book obstruction of justice. What evidence did they have that Nixon broke into Watergate? None his subordinates did. As his subordinates colluded with Russia. Open and shut case. Only difference here is the GOP isn't leaving Trump. It's a political exercise.

(06-11-2017 11:38 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He asked Comey for loyalty

Maybe or maybe not. But Comeys actions says that Comey is a political hack who should have to pledge loyalty or get fired.

Quote:and to lay off Flynn.

Nothing wrong with that. If there was no "there" there, and someone has committed multiple felonies by leaking Flynns unmasked name, Comey should have already dropped it.

Quote: When he continued the investigation he was fired.

Wrong. Months after he continued the investigation, he was fired. He was fired about a week after he had leaked something else about his meeting with the president to the press. This is something the people with their heads up their asses missed. The "loyalty" leak occured prior to Comey being fired. Comey was outted for being a leaker and was fired. You cant count on the FBI director to do the right thing in investigations when he doing things unethically.

Quote: Text book obstruction of justice.

Correct. Comey laid out a textbook case of obstruction of justice against Loretta Lynch and implicated himself in that as well.

He also exonerated Trump in any obstruction of justice.

Anything else that you and Jester want to bring forward?

(06-11-2017 09:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Absolutely devastating to Trump. It's like we live in two parallel universes. Comparing it all to Nixon. No evidence Nixon broke in to the hotel either. His actions afterwards is what did him in as it will he with Trump.

Prior to his career as a journalist, Stephanopoulos was an advisor to theDemocratic Party. He rose to early prominence as a communications director for the 1992 presidential campaign of Bill Clintonand subsequently became White House communications director. 


Fake news

(06-11-2017 11:38 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He asked Comey for loyalty and to lay off Flynn. When he continued the investigation he was fired. Text book obstruction of justice. What evidence did they have that Nixon broke into Watergate? None his subordinates did. As his subordinates colluded with Russia. Open and shut case. Only difference here is the GOP isn't leaving Trump. It's a political exercise.

Counterpoint:
1) There's nothing illegal with a president asking for loyalty from his subordinates.
2) Great legal minds, e.g. Dershowitz, argue that it is impossible for a president to commit the crime of obstruction of justice as by virtue of this office, they are the highest prosecutorial authority. Basically, it is the president's prerogative to shut down an FBI investigation.
3) Even if it is possible for a president to commit obstruction of justice, Trump's phrase "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go" is not sufficient to constitute obstruction of justice. As Comey testified, Trump did not direct or order him to drop the investigation.
4) There is no evidence of collusion between Trump subordinates and Russia. There is evidence of contacts, nothing more to date.
5) It is an open and shut case but not for the reasons you think. It is open and shut because there is no legal basis and/or no evidence to establish legal wrongdoing against Trump.
6) It is political exercise, a witch-hunt by democrats and their MSM allies because they cannot accept the fact that Hillary was awful and lost.

Absolutely devastating to Trump? Keep on grasping for straws. Where's the E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E? Collusion is already out the window so the question of O of J remains in the mind of the ratings starved/butthurt MSM. Even the D.C. DEMS are quiet on this because they don't want to get burned. Remember, many of them were down on Comey after the Hillary campaign email investigation. You can't just throw out these catch words to include impeachment because they sound cool or it's tough talk. There are strict tests/procedures for a reason to exclude frivolous (and political) claims.

Nixon would not have been impeached today.

Do you know where you anti-trump people went wrong? You started this on his first day. You should have pretended to work with him and slowly built into this. Now how can the American people see this as anything other than political. Your eagerness to derail Trump will be your undoing.

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(06-11-2017 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nixon would not have been impeached today.

Nixon was not impeached then...

(06-11-2017 11:38 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He asked Comey for loyalty and to lay off Flynn. When he continued the investigation he was fired. Text book obstruction of justice. What evidence did they have that Nixon broke into Watergate? None his subordinates did. As his subordinates colluded with Russia. Open and shut case. Only difference here is the GOP isn't leaving Trump. It's a political exercise.

The loyalty thing was awful, and it looks awful. The Flynn thing was a request and not an order. It was not obstruction.

(06-11-2017 12:21 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nixon would not have been impeached today.

Nixon was not impeached then...

Lol.

(06-11-2017 11:38 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  He asked Comey for loyalty and to lay off Flynn. When he continued the investigation he was fired. Text book obstruction of justice. What evidence did they have that Nixon broke into Watergate? None his subordinates did. As his subordinates colluded with Russia. Open and shut case. Only difference here is the GOP isn't leaving Trump. It's a political exercise.

Does your extensive resume in the legal field and years of real world experience tell you this?

(06-11-2017 10:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  They all hook on Comey as a leaker. My mother in law just came into the room and said can you believe that a Comey is the leaker. Was John Dean a leaker? It's absurd.

No, what's absurd is your outrage fest. Your news is about as credible as your election prognosticating abilities.

That's OK, though. I read your posts as cheap entertainment and verification that the left is in need of a mental health intervention.