Big 12 is closer to AAC than any P5 league in drafted defensive players over the last 5 years

Love the argument for the Big 12:
"Both the talent gap and the draft dearth can be explained away with one word: youth."

Have they been young for 5 years while other conferences have been old?

They don't say how they accounted for the AAC not having 5 seasons.

This P6 marketing is working. The big 12 will constantly have to justify itself over the AAC.

Second that. But if Big 12 stays together, they may steal a couple of us. And I think we could counter that with a couple of good football only schools. Army/AFA/Colo State/BYU/Boise/SDSU and keep us in the P6.

The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

The p6 narrative is about separation from the g4. It hurts recruiting, tv negotiations, etc with that G5 tag. We are fighting to change it.

(06-10-2017 08:51 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  The p6 narrative is about separation from the g4. It hurts recruiting, tv negotiations, etc with that G5 tag. We are fighting to change it.

Exactly right. The P6 narrative is "closer to the 5 contract bowl conferences than to the G4."

That headline plays right into the AAC narrative.

Especially when you look further down - 1.4 between B12 and AAC, 1.4 between AAC and mwc.
(So to be really precise, the narrative ground truth is "AAC keeps pace with other P6 conferences, mwc keeps within sight of American until next media contracts, other G4s farther behind.")

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

I thought the CFP only payed teams that actually make the playoff.


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Love this quote:

"This also bolsters the AAC’s claim that the Power 5 should really be a Power 6. Texas had seven defensive draft picks in the 2013-2017 span; UConn had nine."

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(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

(06-10-2017 09:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

I thought the CFP only payed teams that actually make the playoff.


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For 2016-2017:
"The five conferences that do not have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $83.5 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose."
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/re...stribution

First $60 million or so split evenly, remainder in shares based on conference performance.

(06-10-2017 07:12 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  This P6 marketing is working. The big 12 will constantly have to justify itself over the AAC.

Not as long as they have Texas and Oklahoma for all sports and Kansas for BB, and they have $30-$40 million dollars per school rolling in. The B-12 also has access to all of the major bowls and automatic access to the College Football Playoff when they qualify a team for one of the 4 playoff spots. The B-12 is P5 while the AAC is the Tweener conference claiming to be P6 without the P5 money and P5 bowl access for the biggest chunk of the season ending bowl money. Right now the AAC WANTS to be a "P" conference and the B-12 IS a "P" conference as long as Texas and Oklahoma remain in the B-12 conference.

(06-11-2017 08:15 AM)panite Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 07:12 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  This P6 marketing is working. The big 12 will constantly have to justify itself over the AAC.

Not as long as they have Texas and Oklahoma for all sports and Kansas for BB, and they have $30-$40 million dollars per school rolling in. The B-12 also has access to all of the major bowls and automatic access to the College Football Playoff when they qualify a team for one of the 4 playoff spots. The B-12 is P5 while the AAC is the Tweener conference claiming to be P6 without the P5 money and P5 bowl access for the biggest chunk of the season ending bowl money. Right now the AAC WANTS to be a "P" conference and the B-12 IS a "P" conference as long as Texas and Oklahoma remain in the B-12 conference.

But we are starting to changing that narrative as press like this shows

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

(06-11-2017 10:46 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

Sounds fantastic but the reality is that the P5 doesn't need most if not all of the outsiders and it has been proven before that each conference and team will do what is best for themselves over a united front.
So the best we can do is separate ourselves and just like the Big East get a money amount and access that while not to the level of the P5 would make the AAC a tweener between the two groups. And the reality is that the AAC has those advantages over the G4.
As for getting what we want the reality is that the G4 has no power what to decide on this it will be the big boys who call the shots. What's more likely to happen is the Power leagues taken the ball with them and separate themselves from the rest and if that happens you better believe the AAC will do its best to tag a long as that 6 th conference even if they get a smaller piece of the pie.

Actually the trend was going to be either the ACC or Big East would the conference to drop down. ACC raided the Big East first with Miami and VT, then BC, followed by Pitt, Syracuse and ND and finaly Louisville. The majority of the teams in the AAC are old CUSA teams. The majority of the OBE teams are in the P5 so there really is no arguement that the majority of the AAC teams where ever part of the power teams. I do agree the plan was to go to P4 with the ACC being next to fall but the ACC has surprisingly complicated this plan. If it goes to P4, it will be either B12 or ACC that drops down to G6.

(06-11-2017 10:46 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

Yeah we'll get right on that. Thanks for the info... Who wants to head up the Message Board Committee for Fairness in FBS? Not everyone at once now.

(06-11-2017 03:27 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 10:46 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

Sounds fantastic but the reality is that the P5 doesn't need most if not all of the outsiders and it has been proven before that each conference and team will do what is best for themselves over a united front.
So the best we can do is separate ourselves and just like the Big East get a money amount and access that while not to the level of the P5 would make the AAC a tweener between the two groups. And the reality is that the AAC has those advantages over the G4.
As for getting what we want the reality is that the G4 has no power what to decide on this it will be the big boys who call the shots. What's more likely to happen is the Power leagues taken the ball with them and separate themselves from the rest and if that happens you better believe the AAC will do its best to tag a long as that 6 th conference even if they get a smaller piece of the pie.

but you continue to avoid the basic, fundamental question -WHERE are you getting this extra money from to separate the AAC from the G5. You can't have more than 100% of the pie. If each P5 conference currently averages 16% of the pie and each G5 averages 4% then WHERE does the AAC pull from?

There's only 2 options- either the P5 conferences all sacrifice a portion of their revenue to build up a 6th challenger or the G4 get together and sacrifice a portion of their tiny slice of the pie and give it to the AAC. There is no 3rd option where the AAC gets rewarded for hard work and success with money that magically appears from nowhere.

Where does the money come from?

(06-11-2017 04:46 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 03:27 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 10:46 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

Sounds fantastic but the reality is that the P5 doesn't need most if not all of the outsiders and it has been proven before that each conference and team will do what is best for themselves over a united front.
So the best we can do is separate ourselves and just like the Big East get a money amount and access that while not to the level of the P5 would make the AAC a tweener between the two groups. And the reality is that the AAC has those advantages over the G4.
As for getting what we want the reality is that the G4 has no power what to decide on this it will be the big boys who call the shots. What's more likely to happen is the Power leagues taken the ball with them and separate themselves from the rest and if that happens you better believe the AAC will do its best to tag a long as that 6 th conference even if they get a smaller piece of the pie.

but you continue to avoid the basic, fundamental question -WHERE are you getting this extra money from to separate the AAC from the G5. You can't have more than 100% of the pie. If each P5 conference currently averages 16% of the pie and each G5 averages 4% then WHERE does the AAC pull from?

There's only 2 options- either the P5 conferences all sacrifice a portion of their revenue to build up a 6th challenger or the G4 get together and sacrifice a portion of their tiny slice of the pie and give it to the AAC. There is no 3rd option where the AAC gets rewarded for hard work and success with money that magically appears from nowhere.

Where does the money come from?

The AAC will open its own central bank and create the money out of nothing. Problem solved.

(06-11-2017 04:46 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 03:27 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 10:46 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 07:14 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(06-10-2017 08:06 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  The ONLY reason a label of P5 or G5 is given is to justify disproportionate payouts to the 10 conferences in FBS by the CFP. Here are the total payouts by the CFP to the G5 for the past 3 seasons-

$54,975,274 AAC
$53,124,368 MWC
$48,604,516 MAC
$41,797,284 CUSA
$41,661,435 SBC

Each of those 3 year totals are less than what any P5 conference receives in 1 year. There is no P6. There is no G4.

Here are facts.
1. Money wise the AAC will not separate itself from the nonP5 league's until the CFP/ Bowls contract gets redone and until the league's tv contract is done. We are all working on old contracts when the league was at its weak point and those are fixed until the time runs out.
2. What the league is doing right now is creating the perception in actual on the field results and in the publics eyes that would lead to changes in the next contracts.

So the league can separate itself from the others but money wise it won't show until those contracts run out.

No here are the facts-

The revenue sharing model of the BCS era ('98-'13) looked like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - Big East (16%) + G4 (4%)

The revenue sharing model of the CFP era ('14-'25) looks like this-
80% - current P5 (16% ea.)
20% - current G5 (4% ea.)


This clearly shows the brilliant evilness of the P5, they used the new contract to-
1. Destroy their 6th competitor,
2. Scatter its remains among the poor half with the false appearance of sharing more,
3. And did all of this without losing a single % point for themselves.

For there to be a "P6" again in 2026 one of two things will have to happen-
1. the G5 will agree to give 75% of its share to 1 team. -OR-
2. the P5 will voluntarily sacrifice some of their own percentage points so they can create a 6th equal competitor.

You have to understand, the FBS is all about creating a sports league that is LESS competitive, not more. Its a rigged, good ol boys network where only a chosen few legacy programs will ever be allowed to compete for a championship, regardless of their on-field results. If you think being successful as a G5 will get you rewarded with an invite to the club then you aren't paying attention. Success by those that are not chose is NOT rewarded in this system, its feared. Ask Boise State.

If you truly want a better situation then you should focus on changing a corrupt system, not trying to exploit it for yourselves. I know you don't want to admit it but you can't get what you want without the rest of the G5 getting it too. Your messaging is all wrong, you should be uniting, not dividing.

Sounds fantastic but the reality is that the P5 doesn't need most if not all of the outsiders and it has been proven before that each conference and team will do what is best for themselves over a united front.
So the best we can do is separate ourselves and just like the Big East get a money amount and access that while not to the level of the P5 would make the AAC a tweener between the two groups. And the reality is that the AAC has those advantages over the G4.
As for getting what we want the reality is that the G4 has no power what to decide on this it will be the big boys who call the shots. What's more likely to happen is the Power leagues taken the ball with them and separate themselves from the rest and if that happens you better believe the AAC will do its best to tag a long as that 6 th conference even if they get a smaller piece of the pie.

but you continue to avoid the basic, fundamental question -WHERE are you getting this extra money from to separate the AAC from the G5. You can't have more than 100% of the pie. If each P5 conference currently averages 16% of the pie and each G5 averages 4% then WHERE does the AAC pull from?

There's only 2 options- either the P5 conferences all sacrifice a portion of their revenue to build up a 6th challenger or the G4 get together and sacrifice a portion of their tiny slice of the pie and give it to the AAC. There is no 3rd option where the AAC gets rewarded for hard work and success with money that magically appears from nowhere.

Where does the money come from?

No one thinks that P6 stickers will make the five bowl contract conferences take money of their pockets today or tomorrow to invite the AAC in. It's never been about that.

It's about having a seat at the table when the next pie is divvied up. It's about 2024 and a bigger pie. And yes we'd like our piece of that bigger pie to be more than 4%, even if that's at the expense of the G4 conferences. But the REALLY important thing is being greater than 0%. Throwing random numbers out there, if the bigs split up 90% of the pie for 18% each and the American gets 6% and you get 1%...then the P6 campaign will have worked.

This is just bolstering the money conferences ultimate goal of having a P4 and a G6. They want fewer teams at the table, not more. I suspect the odds of the B12 getting dropped to "G" status is more likely than any whole conference getting called to move to "P" status.