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How many would be interested in this lineup?
Southern Miss will not be remaining in CDOA in its present form due to geography and its oveerall lack of interest now by the USM fans. Another primary reason is travel cost and it simply makes sense that sending our teams to South Alabama in Mobile or ULL in Lafayette is considerably less than trips to UTEP or the south Florida schools. Winning or losing to any teams in the mix is all the same, actually makes no difference in the overall national scheme of things.

This is strictly a business move and should work well for all until the last big "shakeup" occurs. Nothing against or for any team anywhere and here is the facts:

1. No one wants nor will there be any attempts to "kick anyone out". This will be a simple withdrawal by any team that wants to join the new mix.

2. There will be only a nominal entry fee, just enough to establish the new league and get its feet on the ground. There will be NO exit fees or advance notice for those who want to or can move on in the future.

3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State or Rice or both. Who might win or who wont win any national championship has nothing to do with this, its travel expenses only.

NCAA basketball credits will be gone but that means very little since it is spread out so thinly under our current set up. Should be no problem in lining up bowl games, reminants of cdoa would not be competitive in that respect.

Everyone has seen that ULM has a blank OCC schedule after next couple of years, wonder if they have already decided.

Who wants aboard?
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RE: How many would be interested in this lineup?
No one outside the Belt and CUSA
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(06-10-2017 09:24 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  No one outside the Belt and CUSA

You are absolutely correct there, never expected anyone else. Probably some i n the Southland but they are not on the radar.
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RE: How many would be interested in this lineup?
Lousiana Tech categorically refuses to be in a conference with ULM.

The primary issue for anyone leaving the SBC or C-USA is the revenue from the CFP. Unless if you have enough schools depart to make either the SBC or C-USA no longer viable as a FBS conference, and therefore replace them as a party to the CFP contract, then no new FBS conference will be formed. This would be difficult to pull off, as even if 10 schools left C-USA, C-USA just invites New Mexico State and Liberty to get to six, then two of Eastern Kentucky, Jacksonville State, James Madison, and Missouri State to get back to the FBS minimum of eight.
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(06-10-2017 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State or Rice or both. Who might win or who wont win any national championship has nothing to do with this, its travel expenses only.

Who wants aboard?

Doubt that Rice would be interested in being the westernmost program in this line-up. We have a good thing going with UTSA, and North Texas, and we have been with UTEP now longer than any other C-USA member.

You could mostly accomplish this by withdrawing from C-USA and joining the Sunbelt. I expect Texas State would ask to join C-USA if USM withdraws. Would Louisiana Lafayette?
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Future CUSA
NORTH
Marshall
James Madison
Liberty
Old Dominion
Appalachian State
Charlotte
Coastal Carolina
SOUTH
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Florida Atlantic
FIU
UAB

This covers the Southeast population growth that goes from I-85 from Virginia all the way down to Birmingham. Plus I-95 from D.C. all the way to South Florida. They would have media markets of Tidewater VA, Charlotte, Myrtle Beach, Atlanta, Savannah, Birmingham, Boca Raton, and Miami. Plus this would be a really regional conference.

Future Sun Belt
WKU
Middle Tennessee
Troy
South Alabama
Southern Miss
Louisiana
ULM
Louisiana Tech
Arkansas State
Missouri State
Rice
Texas State
UTSA
North Texas

Sun Belt will be the Deep South/Texas/Gulf Coast/Mississippi River Conference. This will include the Deep South/Texas markers of Mobile, Little Rock, New Orleans, Shreveport, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas/Ft Worth.
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RE: How many would be interested in this lineup?
This would have to wait until the next CFP contract, but if you wanted to cut down on travel costs:

WAC
NMSU, UTEP, Texas State, UTSA, Rice, North Texas, Louisiana, ULM

Obviously all of the WAC's non-football members have to be relocated, but between the Big West, WCC, Big Sky, and Summit, that shouldn't be too hard. UTRGV probably stays behind and upgrades to FBS. UMKC would actually not be that far out of place if they can't be relocated.

Big South
Liberty, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, App State, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Coastal Carolina

The Big South, on paper at least, balloons to 17 schools, but it won't stay that way for long.

Sun Belt
Lousiana Tech, Arkansas State, Southern Miss, South Alabama, UAB, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

The five remaining Sun Belt schools are basically able to offer a conference without FAU and FIU, which is more than enough for Louisiana Tech and Southern Miss. The Sun Belt is able to hold on to Little Rock and Texas-Arlington.

C-USA

When C-USA got down to five schools, it took the Atlantic Sun's four Florida schools to kept itself afloat. After Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss, and UAB depart, pushing the conference back down to six schools, it turns its eyes on the original Big South. Winthrop, Presbyterian, and Charleston Southern leave, dropping the Big South to 14 schools and getting C-USA up to 9 members. It also lands USC Upstate to get to 10 members. FAU and FIU play as FBS independents.

FAU, FIU, FGCU, Stetson, Jacksonville, North Florida, USC Upstate, Winthrop, Presbyterian, Charleston Southern

Atlantic Sun

The Atlantic Sun, having lost all of its Florida members and USC Upstate, winds up taking the remaining non-FBS members of the Big South. Monmouth, Charleston Southern, and Presbyterian
Join as football affiliates.

Lipscomb, North Alabama, Kennesaw State, NJIT, UNC-Asheville, Gardner Webb, High Point, Campbell, Radford, Longwood
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RE: How many would be interested in this lineup?
(06-10-2017 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Southern Miss will not be remaining in CDOA in its present form due to geography and its oveerall lack of interest now by the USM fans. Another primary reason is travel cost and it simply makes sense that sending our teams to South Alabama in Mobile or ULL in Lafayette is considerably less than trips to UTEP or the south Florida schools. Winning or losing to any teams in the mix is all the same, actually makes no difference in the overall national scheme of things.

This is strictly a business move and should work well for all until the last big "shakeup" occurs. Nothing against or for any team anywhere and here is the facts:

1. No one wants nor will there be any attempts to "kick anyone out". This will be a simple withdrawal by any team that wants to join the new mix.

2. There will be only a nominal entry fee, just enough to establish the new league and get its feet on the ground. There will be NO exit fees or advance notice for those who want to or can move on in the future.

3. The core schools joining USM could be ULL, ULM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, Ark State, La Tech and perhaps McNeese State or Rice or both. Who might win or who wont win any national championship has nothing to do with this, its travel expenses only.

NCAA basketball credits will be gone but that means very little since it is spread out so thinly under our current set up. Should be no problem in lining up bowl games, reminants of cdoa would not be competitive in that respect.

Everyone has seen that ULM has a blank OCC schedule after next couple of years, wonder if they have already decided.

Who wants aboard?

If you split the CUSA/SB 12 and 12, USM is in the western 12-UTEP, UTSA, UNT, Rice, La Tech, USM, UAB, TX St., ULL, ULM, Ark. St. and USA. Marshall, MTSU, WKU, UNCC, ODU, FIU, FAU, GSU, Ga St., Troy, App. St., Coastal Carolina.
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(06-10-2017 11:35 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  This would have to wait until the next CFP contract, but if you wanted to cut down on travel costs:

WAC
NMSU, UTEP, Texas State, UTSA, Rice, North Texas, Louisiana, ULM

Obviously all of the WAC's non-football members have to be relocated, but between the Big West, WCC, Big Sky, and Summit, that shouldn't be too hard. UTRGV probably stays behind and upgrades to FBS. UMKC would actually not be that far out of place if they can't be relocated.

Big South
Liberty, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, App State, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Coastal Carolina

The Big South, on paper at least, balloons to 17 schools, but it won't stay that way for long.

Sun Belt
Lousiana Tech, Arkansas State, Southern Miss, South Alabama, UAB, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State

The five remaining Sun Belt schools are basically able to offer a conference without FAU and FIU, which is more than enough for Louisiana Tech and Southern Miss. The Sun Belt is able to hold on to Little Rock and Texas-Arlington.

C-USA

When C-USA got down to five schools, it took the Atlantic Sun's four Florida schools to kept itself afloat. After Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss, and UAB depart, pushing the conference back down to six schools, it turns its eyes on the original Big South. Winthrop, Presbyterian, and Charleston Southern leave, dropping the Big South to 14 schools and getting C-USA up to 9 members. It also lands USC Upstate to get to 10 members. FAU and FIU play as FBS independents.

FAU, FIU, FGCU, Stetson, Jacksonville, North Florida, USC Upstate, Winthrop, Presbyterian, Charleston Southern

Atlantic Sun

The Atlantic Sun, having lost all of its Florida members and USC Upstate, winds up taking the remaining non-FBS members of the Big South. Monmouth, Charleston Southern, and Presbyterian
Join as football affiliates.

Lipscomb, North Alabama, Kennesaw State, NJIT, UNC-Asheville, Gardner Webb, High Point, Campbell, Radford, Longwood


North Alabama have asked the SBC to join them back in like 2011 or 2012 year. For sure that we know that wanted FBS status.

North Alabama maybe Kennesaw State will make their way up there with them.
Jacksonville State
Stony Brook
Delaware would want FBS if James Madison goes.
Lamar
Sam Houston State
SFA
Eastern Kentucky
Northern Iowa
Missouri State will go to FBS since MVC is weak now.
Wichita State
Youngstown State
Illinois State
Indiana State

Now, if more see they moved up? Others might want to do the same.
Chattanooga, Towson, East Tennessee State, Villanova (just to stay with the P5 schools if there becomes a 1A and 1AA in basketball), Richmond, VCU could pull the trigger to add football and so forth.
There are schools not D1 yet that are aiming for FBS already.
Texas A&M-San Antonio
Texas A&M-Central Texas
Hawaii-West Oahu (could help Hawaii out in the future)?

With that said, G5 may have to go regional, and La Tech could be in a conference without La.-Monroe as well.
If MVFC could move up as a whole? They could be a semi-power conference along with AAC and MWC. Could take the best of the rest of C-USA, MAC and SBC with a couple of Powerful FCS schools to create a Semi-Power conference for 4. Then, reformed the G5 to include CAA, Big Sky, Southland and Southern.
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