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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-07-2017 07:34 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 07:27 PM)winston70 Wrote:  ULM just doesn't have the money to be competitive in FBS football

Or any other sport, for that matter.

If they go the Idaho route, it's better for everyone. They can possibly start winning a few games, and we become the only FBS program in northern Louisiana (although we basically already are).

Added bonus: we no longer have to listen to outsiders yelling "Tech and ULM should play every year" ?

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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  
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(06-07-2017 10:16 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  since someone said it. Why don't Tech and ULM play?

The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

It is kinda petty in a way. I can clearly see that. However, our attendance hasn't hurt the last couple of years and the benefits of playing them now are the lowest ever. On the plus side, it would shut a lot of people up, at least for a little while if we blasted them. Some of the hardliner alums don't want to give them the attendance boost or even "dare I say" risk losing to them. As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that they not going anywhere and playing them ever once in a while is not going to be the end of the world. I mean look at the ULL series over the last 5 years. That's worked out pretty good for us.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-08-2017 10:59 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is 1 reason I #%r^ HATE LA Tech.....

Here's the TRUTH:

Blah Tech is no better than UL Monroe or UL Lafayette...

You ppl just have #%^ elitist attitudes, Blah Tech, ULM, ULL, Tulane are all in the same damn boat. And I'm betting that if the state could get away with it 2 or 3 of you would be shut down and since Tulane is private they couldn't shut them down if they wanted. So that only leaves 3.

Our record and tradition disagrees with your assessment. I fully admit that SOME Tech fans are arrogant and annoying as heck, but all the CUSA teams on this board have them. You yourself are proof that Marshall has a few slow swimmers as well.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-09-2017 08:34 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:25 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 09:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.
so smu shouldn't play North Texas since they are about 25 games up on us in the history and their budget is larger...flipping stupid. you play games against regional teams to help both schools

ULM is a joke, have a higher standard for yourself.

My wife is an NLU Indian and one of the first to admit that ULM is its own worst enemy. That being said, I would guarantee you that they would be put into a rotation with Northwestern, Southern and Grambling every year on our schedule. WE paid Southern $350K to come play us at home and it was the best money we ever spent. ULM would get very similar. Also Winning at any level brings money. My local high school was a football bottom dweller for decades until they moved to 8 man along with several other local schools. Two state runner-ups later and they built a half million dollar sports complex.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-08-2017 10:07 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 09:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I imagine Liberty, Umass and NMSU will be glad to sign Home and Home. Plenty of Payday Games left against the SEC & ACC payday games. I doubt getting OOC games will be an issue. Also, SB is going to a 9 game conference schedule next year. They only need 3 OOC games. You have to think they will be able to schedule FCS teams as well.

Do you have confirmation of that? I was thinking the rules said they had to, but I hadn't heard anyone confirm that was going to happen.

The Sunbelt is keeping to 8 conference games. They are splitting into divisions to hold a CCG. And yes the requirement to hold a CCG with 10 teams is either a round robin schedule (9 conference games) or split into divisions.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-09-2017 07:53 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Found this:

"With ULM in contract with the Sun Belt Conference through 2019, they will have some time to think about making the change that would benefit their program in multiple ways."

https://ulmhawkeyeonline.com/20855/sport...l-success/

Makes me wonder if ULM's president, who seems to me to be anti-athletics, plans to drop ULM to FCS in 2019... or maybe I'm speculating too hard.

I don't think you're speculating too hard. Time is up for ULM.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-09-2017 09:30 AM)tyler90wm Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 07:34 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 07:27 PM)winston70 Wrote:  ULM just doesn't have the money to be competitive in FBS football

Or any other sport, for that matter.

If they go the Idaho route, it's better for everyone. They can possibly start winning a few games, and we become the only FBS program in northern Louisiana (although we basically already are).

Added bonus: we no longer have to listen to outsiders yelling "Tech and ULM should play every year" ?

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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-09-2017 09:45 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:11 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:16 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  since someone said it. Why don't Tech and ULM play?

The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

It is kinda petty in a way. I can clearly see that. However, our attendance hasn't hurt the last couple of years and the benefits of playing them now are the lowest ever. On the plus side, it would shut a lot of people up, at least for a little while if we blasted them. Some of the hardliner alums don't want to give them the attendance boost or even "dare I say" risk losing to them. As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that they not going anywhere and playing them ever once in a while is not going to be the end of the world. I mean look at the ULL series over the last 5 years. That's worked out pretty good for us.

I can understand the reasons for Tech fans not wanting to play ULM, but a rivalry with ULL should be cultivated. Y'alls fan bases really do hate one another. It could become a very big rivalry in the state of Louisiana, and both schools could profit financially from playing one another every year. ULL has tons of fans that travel well. There's no doubt they're a passionate bunch, as annoying as they may be.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
If this is true that ULM is going FCS in 2020, then NMSU may be able to fill the West division if they can hang on that long.
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If ULM does go FCS this makes the Sun Belt a bit stronger. Assuming they don't add anyone having dropped three of the bottom feeders is a good situation for them.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-09-2017 10:38 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-09-2017 09:45 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:11 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:16 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  since someone said it. Why don't Tech and ULM play?

The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

It is kinda petty in a way. I can clearly see that. However, our attendance hasn't hurt the last couple of years and the benefits of playing them now are the lowest ever. On the plus side, it would shut a lot of people up, at least for a little while if we blasted them. Some of the hardliner alums don't want to give them the attendance boost or even "dare I say" risk losing to them. As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that they not going anywhere and playing them ever once in a while is not going to be the end of the world. I mean look at the ULL series over the last 5 years. That's worked out pretty good for us.

I can understand the reasons for Tech fans not wanting to play ULM, but a rivalry with ULL should be cultivated. Y'alls fan bases really do hate one another. It could become a very big rivalry in the state of Louisiana, and both schools could profit financially from playing one another every year. ULL has tons of fans that travel well. There's no doubt they're a passionate bunch, as annoying as they may be.

I don't disagree one bit. We have started playing regularly and its helped us tremendously. ULL and Tech are a clash of cultures and the games and banter reflect that. I hate the cajuns. I absolutely Hate them. Even worst than Auburn or LSU.
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(06-09-2017 10:51 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If this is true that ULM is going FCS in 2020, then NMSU may be able to fill the West division if they can hang on that long.

I believe we would add JMU or Mizz State before taking NMSU back.

Doesn't matter because ULM isn't going anywhere.
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(06-09-2017 11:01 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  If ULM does go FCS this makes the Sun Belt a bit stronger. Assuming they don't add anyone having dropped three of the bottom feeders is a good situation for them.

If they are bottom feeders I think a few of CUSA schools would be OK with ULM's record over the last 10 seasons. While not great....still not bad considering their dollar limitations

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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
(06-08-2017 10:59 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is 1 reason I #%r^ HATE LA Tech.....

Here's the TRUTH:

Blah Tech is no better than UL Monroe or UL Lafayette...

You ppl just have #%^ elitist attitudes, Blah Tech, ULM, ULL, Tulane are all in the same damn boat. And I'm betting that if the state could get away with it 2 or 3 of you would be shut down and since Tulane is private they couldn't shut them down if they wanted. So that only leaves 3.

Never go full retard man.

To your one valid point though, Louisiana would definately benefit from shutting down some universities. If you think Tech or ULL would even be mentioned you're not very smart.
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(06-09-2017 10:38 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-09-2017 09:45 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:11 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:16 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  since someone said it. Why don't Tech and ULM play?

The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

It is kinda petty in a way. I can clearly see that. However, our attendance hasn't hurt the last couple of years and the benefits of playing them now are the lowest ever. On the plus side, it would shut a lot of people up, at least for a little while if we blasted them. Some of the hardliner alums don't want to give them the attendance boost or even "dare I say" risk losing to them. As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that they not going anywhere and playing them ever once in a while is not going to be the end of the world. I mean look at the ULL series over the last 5 years. That's worked out pretty good for us.

I can understand the reasons for Tech fans not wanting to play ULM, but a rivalry with ULL should be cultivated. Y'alls fan bases really do hate one another. It could become a very big rivalry in the state of Louisiana, and both schools could profit financially from playing one another every year. ULL has tons of fans that travel well. There's no doubt they're a passionate bunch, as annoying as they may be.

I've been disappointed with ULL's crowd. Not bad mind you, but I hoped that they had grown to the point where they could help challenge some of our current (football) attendance records. They seem to draw a better than average crowd, but not much more. A 2 game series every decade or so works fine for me (same for ULM).
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(06-09-2017 11:02 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-09-2017 10:38 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-09-2017 09:45 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:11 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

It is kinda petty in a way. I can clearly see that. However, our attendance hasn't hurt the last couple of years and the benefits of playing them now are the lowest ever. On the plus side, it would shut a lot of people up, at least for a little while if we blasted them. Some of the hardliner alums don't want to give them the attendance boost or even "dare I say" risk losing to them. As I have gotten older, I have come to realize that they not going anywhere and playing them ever once in a while is not going to be the end of the world. I mean look at the ULL series over the last 5 years. That's worked out pretty good for us.

I can understand the reasons for Tech fans not wanting to play ULM, but a rivalry with ULL should be cultivated. Y'alls fan bases really do hate one another. It could become a very big rivalry in the state of Louisiana, and both schools could profit financially from playing one another every year. ULL has tons of fans that travel well. There's no doubt they're a passionate bunch, as annoying as they may be.

I don't disagree one bit. We have started playing regularly and its helped us tremendously. ULL and Tech are a clash of cultures and the games and banter reflect that. I hate the cajuns. I absolutely Hate them. Even worst than Auburn or LSU.

Has it though? Granted it has taken them down a peg. In what way do you think it has helped us?
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I wonder if "moving down" will be a threat by the prez in order to raise some more dollars.......... and then stay 1-A
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(06-09-2017 11:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(06-09-2017 10:51 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If this is true that ULM is going FCS in 2020, then NMSU may be able to fill the West division if they can hang on that long.

I believe we would add JMU or Mizz State before taking NMSU back.

Doesn't matter because ULM isn't going anywhere.

JMU has made their feelings on the Sun Belt pretty clear.
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RE: OT: UL Monroe has 0 OOC games after 2019
Playing ULL annually is definitely more plausible than ULM. The one problem, again, is that leaves us no room on our schedule for H&Hs with other G5 teams.

Then again, the teams we're playing aren't much better, anyway. If we could get a series with Tulane or other AAC teams, that would be a different story.

As far as whether or not playing ULL has helped us, I will say that I'm pretty sure the 2015 game was among our top 5 attendances in the Joe. If not top 5, pretty close. Don't have the numbers in front of me right now.

That said, I fully expect sell outs or almost sell outs against NSU and MSST to start the season. As long as we win, attendance could be high all season without playing ULM or L.
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(06-09-2017 10:09 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 10:07 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-08-2017 09:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I imagine Liberty, Umass and NMSU will be glad to sign Home and Home. Plenty of Payday Games left against the SEC & ACC payday games. I doubt getting OOC games will be an issue. Also, SB is going to a 9 game conference schedule next year. They only need 3 OOC games. You have to think they will be able to schedule FCS teams as well.

Do you have confirmation of that? I was thinking the rules said they had to, but I hadn't heard anyone confirm that was going to happen.

The Sunbelt is keeping to 8 conference games. They are splitting into divisions to hold a CCG. And yes the requirement to hold a CCG with 10 teams is either a round robin schedule (9 conference games) or split into divisions.

I stand corrected, I misread the round-robin rule. Still I think 9 games would still be the best option for the SB to get more bowl teams eligible.
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