No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Very similar numbers for both the only real difference is the sides are switched...

which if you read what President Clinton had to say while President and on health care just a year or so ago. And what President Trump is saying today....

It doesn't make sense why both sides have changed.

Below is what Clinton had to say in 1995 and with in the last couple years on health care. Democrats loved him. Why?

1. “All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country,”. “The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.

2. “That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens,”. “In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace.

3. “We are a nation of immigrants,”. “But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it.”


4. “That message where ‘I’ll give you America great again’ is if you’re a white Southerner, you know exactly what it means, don’t you?” “What it means is ‘I’ll give you an economy you had 50 years ago, and I’ll move you back up on the social totem pole and other people down.” “Together, we can make America great again.”

5. “So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It’s the craziest thing in the world,”

6. “And in the middle of all this we learned, breathtakingly, that middle-aged, non-college-educated white Americans’ life expectancy is going down and is now lower than Hispanics, even though they make less money,” “And the gap between African-Americans and whites is closing, but unfortunately not because the death rate among African-Americans is dropping but because the death rate among white Americans is rising. Why? Because they don’t have anything to look forward to when they get up in the morning. Because their lives are sort of stuck in neutral.”

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Keep telling yourself that.

The people I know who were skeptical are less skeptical. We knew he would be impulsive and a bit of a jerk. We knew his past comments would make building a consensus difficult. We knew he wasn't big on details. We doubted whether he was really a conservative. He is showing that he is a conservative and he is listening to advisers like Mattis who do know the details.

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

I'm ready to place a wager with you right now.

(06-06-2017 02:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

I'm ready to place a wager with you right now.

You don't have anything to offer. Just like Trump doesn't have, and won't have for the 55% of Americans that are currently opposed to his Presidency.

(06-06-2017 02:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Keep telling yourself that.

The people I know who were skeptical are less skeptical. We knew he would be impulsive and a bit of a jerk. We knew his past comments would make building a consensus difficult. We knew he wasn't big on details. We doubted whether he was really a conservative. He is showing that he is a conservative and he is listening to advisers like Mattis who do know the details.

Again, the people you know....likely aren't reachable voters.

(06-06-2017 02:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Keep telling yourself that.

The people I know who were skeptical are less skeptical. We knew he would be impulsive and a bit of a jerk. We knew his past comments would make building a consensus difficult. We knew he wasn't big on details. We doubted whether he was really a conservative. He is showing that he is a conservative and he is listening to advisers like Mattis who do know the details.

Again, the people you know....likely aren't reachable voters.

Its clear you don't know any, only hardline left partisans. I don't really know any but one or two Trump hardliners. I know lots of the skeptical Republicans.

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

team Blue dropped about 54 house seats and 9 senate seats in '94

17 months 'til we find out the score for 2018

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Muh polls, muh demografix

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(06-07-2017 06:21 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Keep telling yourself that.

The people I know who were skeptical are less skeptical. We knew he would be impulsive and a bit of a jerk. We knew his past comments would make building a consensus difficult. We knew he wasn't big on details. We doubted whether he was really a conservative. He is showing that he is a conservative and he is listening to advisers like Mattis who do know the details.

Again, the people you know....likely aren't reachable voters.

Its clear you don't know any, only hardline left partisans. I don't really know any but one or two Trump hardliners. I know lots of the skeptical Republicans.

They are going to overwhelm us with field offices.

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(06-06-2017 02:48 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:29 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

I'm ready to place a wager with you right now.

You don't have anything to offer. Just like Trump doesn't have, and won't have for the 55% of Americans that are currently opposed to his Presidency.

dayum son...you don't understand how beaten down the dems are right now...

just like this past tuesday, our mayoral race had a 35% turnout with a 60% black population (the 16 year (D) incumbent got his arse whooped 60/40), so will the races in '18 follow this same pattern....

you guys have nothing in the tank.............and you know it....

(06-06-2017 02:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 02:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Uh...anywhere from 54 to 57 percent are opposed to DJT. And Clinton triangulated to the right and got some of his detractors back.

Trump has no intention of moving to the center. He has no plan, nor any inclination to try to win those voters back.

There's a difference...Clinton tried and succeeded in bringing many of those voters back....Trump won't even bother.

And what happened to the Dems in 1994? 2018 is coming....

LoL ... 2018... you can dream, Tommy boy.

"There will be no blue wave"

Again, where are you going to get your supporters from in 2018 if the GOP loses 10% from 2016?

I know, you'll try to gerrymander some more and depress turnout. But gerrymandering has its limits so long as you don't keep people from voting. And the Courts, which DJT has been too busy stuffing money in his pockets and tweeting like a 5 year to even nominate candidates to, will strike those down.

You realize that Trump isn't even trying to do anything that a growing majority of Americans want. Clinton did at least listen to the people.

----
I do think there are limits to how far DJT can fall, at least in the first year. His absolute floor is 35 percent support.

But even that is a trap for the GOP. You see, DJT's supporters aren't a majority, but they are in the GOP primaries. So most, if not all GOP electeds are racking up 100% voting synchronized records. That will bit them on the butt in the general in 2018.

----

The other thing to look at is the percent opposed and the strength of that opposition. If its 39% support, 48% oppose, 13% undecided, where 20% of the opposed people are mildly opposed to Trump, then that's bad but manageable. If its 39% support, 55% opposed, where 45% or more are very opposed to Trump, then that's a real problem.

----

LOL, you keep playing in the light surf....but a wave is building. Montana, where 75% of the voters are whites without college degrees, and a majority are white, non-college educated, poorer than the national average, and much more likely to attend church...is NOT indicative of much other than the fact that Trump hasn't lost his most fervent supporters.

Keep telling yourself that.

The people I know who were skeptical are less skeptical. We knew he would be impulsive and a bit of a jerk. We knew his past comments would make building a consensus difficult. We knew he wasn't big on details. We doubted whether he was really a conservative. He is showing that he is a conservative and he is listening to advisers like Mattis who do know the details.

What have the Dems done for the American people since Trump got elected? All they have done is use lies and fake news to resist Trump. The American people proved last Nov 8 that they aren't ruled by the MSM's propaganda. All of this Russian nonsense is what the left is basing their existence on. Well, the people who elected Trump and many that couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary or Trump are leaning to Trump now because of the hatred, violence and outright lies being pushed by the left. Buckle up Dems.....

(06-06-2017 01:46 PM)bullet Wrote:  No, not in bimbo eruptions. Still no contest. Be he IS more popular (or less unpopular) at this point in his presidency.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...spartandhp

"Different polling firms peg Trump at varying levels of approval, but the RealClearPolitics average had him at 39.8 percent Tuesday while the weighted average from FiveThirtyEight had him at exactly 39 percent. Not great numbers, but still better than Clinton. On day 138 of his presidency, just 37.8 percent of Americans approved of the job he was doing, according to FiveThirtyEight."

Impressive. The only thing that tarnishes that a little bit is the possibility of criminal obstruction of justice less than 5 months in and no legislative accomplishments. But we will just have to be patient with him since he is an amateur public leader after all.