No doubt. Would love for both him and McCarty to stay, but can't blame them for chasing their dream.

Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

(06-19-2017 07:29 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

How many of our guys are playing summer ball?

(06-19-2017 07:29 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

Could/would Sandlin turn into a starter for us? La Tech's ace (Nate Harris) who ended up being the CUSA Pitcher of the Year started off as their closer. Harris and Sandlin went head to head in relief in our Sunday match up this year in Ruston and both did a heck of a job that game from what I remember.

(06-19-2017 08:59 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:29 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

How many of our guys are playing summer ball?

Might be an incomplete list. These are the players I found. Stats are linked.

Nick Sandlin (Cape Cod League/Hyannis Harbor Hawks)
Luke Reynolds (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Matthew Guidry (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Cody Carroll (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
JC Keys (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Daniel Keating (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Storme Cooper (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Alex Nelms (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Sean Tweedy (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Calder Mikell (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Jaylon Keys (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Casey Maack (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Gabe Montenegro (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Bryant Bowen (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Matt Wallner (USA Collegiate Team Training Camp Invite)

(06-19-2017 10:34 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:59 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:29 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

How many of our guys are playing summer ball?

Might be an incomplete list. These are the players I found.

Nick Sandlin (Cape Cod League/Hyannis Harbor Hawks)
Luke Reynolds (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Matthew Guidry (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Cody Carroll (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
JC Keys (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Daniel Keating (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Storme Cooper (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Alex Nelms (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Sean Tweedy (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Calder Mikell (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Jaylon Keys (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Casey Maack (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Gabe Montenegro (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Bryant Bowen (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Matt Wallner (USA Collegiate Team Training Camp Invite)

Thanks Beagle

(06-16-2017 01:35 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Hearing that we may avoid the worst case scenario with the draft. Stay tuned.

I could see Braley staying. I still think he would sign but him staying is more likely than McCarty. This was the first time he's pitched regularly in three years. It is certainly possible for him to get some more work in on the mound to improve his stock for next year.

I don't know enough about salary differences between rounds to know what the difference would be between being a third round pick and a sixth round pick, though. Not sure if enough of a difference to chance it.

I think it is pretty clear that McCarty has hit his ceiling under Federico. It makes sense for him to move on.

(06-19-2017 02:05 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 01:35 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Hearing that we may avoid the worst case scenario with the draft. Stay tuned.

I could see Braley staying. I still think he would sign but him staying is more likely than McCarty. This was the first time he's pitched regularly in three years. It is certainly possible for him to get some more work in on the mound to improve his stock for next year.

I don't know enough about salary differences between rounds to know what the difference would be between being a third round pick and a sixth round pick, though. Not sure if enough of a difference to chance it.

I think it is pretty clear that McCarty has hit his ceiling under Federico. It makes sense for him to move on.

This is what I have been able to tell are the numbers for draft slots this year (first and last pick in the round):

Rd 3
Pick 76 - $755,400
Pick 105 - $511,900

Rd 6
Pick 166 - $283,300
Pick 195 - $222,600

Braley was pick 179 I believe and his falls at $253,800

This is all pre-tax I assume

(06-19-2017 02:44 PM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 02:05 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 01:35 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Hearing that we may avoid the worst case scenario with the draft. Stay tuned.

I could see Braley staying. I still think he would sign but him staying is more likely than McCarty. This was the first time he's pitched regularly in three years. It is certainly possible for him to get some more work in on the mound to improve his stock for next year.

I don't know enough about salary differences between rounds to know what the difference would be between being a third round pick and a sixth round pick, though. Not sure if enough of a difference to chance it.

I think it is pretty clear that McCarty has hit his ceiling under Federico. It makes sense for him to move on.

This is what I have been able to tell are the numbers for draft slots this year (first and last pick in the round):

Rd 3
Pick 76 - $755,400
Pick 105 - $511,900

Rd 6
Pick 166 - $283,300
Pick 195 - $222,600

Braley was pick 179 I believe and his falls at $253,800

This is all pre-tax I assume

and before their Agent gets their cut id imagine. what's their annual salary in the 6th round?

(06-19-2017 02:44 PM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 02:05 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 01:35 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Hearing that we may avoid the worst case scenario with the draft. Stay tuned.

I could see Braley staying. I still think he would sign but him staying is more likely than McCarty. This was the first time he's pitched regularly in three years. It is certainly possible for him to get some more work in on the mound to improve his stock for next year.

I don't know enough about salary differences between rounds to know what the difference would be between being a third round pick and a sixth round pick, though. Not sure if enough of a difference to chance it.

I think it is pretty clear that McCarty has hit his ceiling under Federico. It makes sense for him to move on.

This is what I have been able to tell are the numbers for draft slots this year (first and last pick in the round):

Rd 3
Pick 76 - $755,400
Pick 105 - $511,900

Rd 6
Pick 166 - $283,300
Pick 195 - $222,600

Braley was pick 179 I believe and his falls at $253,800

This is all pre-tax I assume

Good info. Thanks, man.

Doesn't matter. They'll both get peanuts next year after their senior year if they come back. They'll have zero leverage. Seniors that don't go in the first 3 rounds usually get 10k as a signing bonus. And I don't have the info on how many seniors go in the top 2 rounds each year. But based on memory I'd say it's less than 5 on average. A lot of years there won't be any seniors picked in the 1st round at all.

(06-17-2017 03:43 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Heard this AM from a pretty good source that both McCarty and Braley will sign.

Heard this morning that McCarty is to report Wednesday but that Braley was still on the fence.

(06-19-2017 08:38 PM)mlytc Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 03:43 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Heard this AM from a pretty good source that both McCarty and Braley will sign.

Heard this morning that McCarty is to report Wednesday but that Braley was still on the fence.

if I was either of those guys?????

I bolt w/o hesitating.......I see no upside by staying...

(06-19-2017 12:32 PM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 10:34 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:59 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:29 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Sandlin threw 5 innings of scoreless ball last night on the Cape in a 0-0 tie. 6 Ks, 1 walk, 1 hit allowed on 69 pitches.

http://pointstreak.com/baseball/boxscore...eid=388367

How many of our guys are playing summer ball?

Might be an incomplete list. These are the players I found.

Nick Sandlin (Cape Cod League/Hyannis Harbor Hawks)
Luke Reynolds (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Matthew Guidry (NECBL/Upper Valley Nighthawks)
Cody Carroll (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
JC Keys (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Daniel Keating (NECBL/Ocean State Waves)
Storme Cooper (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Alex Nelms (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Sean Tweedy (Coastal Plain League/Florence Redwolves)
Calder Mikell (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Jaylon Keys (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Casey Maack (Texas Collegiate League/Texas Marshals)
Gabe Montenegro (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Bryant Bowen (Texas Collegiate League/Acadiana Canecutters)
Matt Wallner (USA Collegiate Team Training Camp Invite)

Thanks Beagle

you have to give Beagle props.....he's on top o' things....the rest of us in the trenches can only say "Thank You!"

edit: my edit is always due to 'my dyslexia sucks'

(06-20-2017 06:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:38 PM)mlytc Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 03:43 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Heard this AM from a pretty good source that both McCarty and Braley will sign.

Heard this morning that McCarty is to report Wednesday but that Braley was still on the fence.

if I was either of those guys?????

I bolt w/o hesitating.......I see no upside by staying...

Only reason to stay is if you feel you have something left to prove or that you want to play in Omaha. It's not like either of them are making a beeline to the majors. They'll hang in the minors a few years and maybe get a shot if they improve. They'll do the same thing whether they stay or not. Can't fault them for taking the money, but I hope they stay. There's a lot of people who left early in '08 who wish they'd have stayed.

(06-19-2017 07:59 PM)Eagle9 Wrote:  Doesn't matter. They'll both get peanuts next year after their senior year if they come back. They'll have zero leverage. Seniors that don't go in the first 3 rounds usually get 10k as a signing bonus. And I don't have the info on how many seniors go in the top 2 rounds each year. But based on memory I'd say it's less than 5 on average. A lot of years there won't be any seniors picked in the 1st round at all.

I'm not sure that the first round being absent of a high number of seniors is as much as indication of it not being possible due to lack of leverage as much as it is that when a player with 1st round talent becomes draft eligible, they go and that is typically after their junior season. Thus, a high number of first and second round picks are juniors.

Brent Rooker is an example of a player who came back his senior year and dramatically improved his stock. 2016 he went in the 38th round, 2017 he goes 35th overall.

I'm not saying Braley or McCarty would make that kind of jump but if they went from 6th/7th round to the 3rd, they are looking at $300-500K difference in signing bonus.

(06-20-2017 09:47 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  Brent Rooker is an example of a player who came back his senior year

Rooker was a redshirt junior in 2017.

(06-20-2017 09:55 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 09:47 AM)eagle04 Wrote:  Brent Rooker is an example of a player who came back his senior year

Rooker was a redshirt junior in 2017.

MLB Draft had him listed as a Senior. My apologies.

(06-20-2017 09:05 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 06:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:38 PM)mlytc Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 03:43 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  Heard this AM from a pretty good source that both McCarty and Braley will sign.

Heard this morning that McCarty is to report Wednesday but that Braley was still on the fence.

if I was either of those guys?????

I bolt w/o hesitating.......I see no upside by staying...

Only reason to stay is if you feel you have something left to prove or that you want to play in Omaha. It's not like either of them are making a beeline to the majors. They'll hang in the minors a few years and maybe get a shot if they improve. They'll do the same thing whether they stay or not. Can't fault them for taking the money, but I hope they stay. There's a lot of people who left early in '08 who wish they'd have stayed.

We won a record 50 games this year, hosted a regional and couldn't even win our own regional against an in state rival that was absolutely depleted of pitching due to injuries. If we can't even get to a Super Regional with what we did this year, I don't see how we'd get to one next year even if they did stay. I'd be outta here.

(06-20-2017 09:05 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  maybe

if

hope