Social media erupted Tuesday, June 6, after excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s 1996 book “It Takes a Village” revealed that she employed Black inmates while serving as First Lady of Arkansas, leaving die-hard HRC supporters incensed.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2017/06/07/p...edia-fury/

Clinton gets backlash for using Black prison labor as first lady of Arkansas
Hillary Clinton has found herself facing backlash for excerpts from her 1996 book It Takes A Village in which she describes how Black prison workers worked at the Arkansas governor’s mansion while she was living there with her husband, Bill Clinton.

“When we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor’s mansion was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs,” Clinton recalled in the book, going on to say that she was friendly with “a few of them, African-American men in their thirties who had already served 12 to 18 years of their sentences.”

Despite this alleged friendship, though, “We enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.”
http://thegrio.com/2017/06/08/hillary-cl...son-labor/

She used prison labor who, in some cases, happened to be black. Guess what, some also happened to be white.

In addition, the choice was, sit in a prison cell...work in a flower garden or mow a lawn. Lots of people chose the latter. Its sort of a plum position in the prison system. Where else do you get to be friendly with THE ONLY PERSON who can pardon you?

You may also see groups of convicted people, including African-Americans, picking up trash on the side of the road. This is called "community service" and is not "slavery".

If a convict breaks a rule...he does indeed get sent back to prison. He does not get a cookie.

Clinton's Plantation

Something tells me, that this thread is going to out a lot of dumb.

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Didn't anyone read the book back when it was published?

Or was that a rhetorical question?

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2...to_wo.html

Still happening in Louisiana.

(06-08-2017 04:55 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  Didn't anyone read the book back when it was published?

Or was that a rhetorical question?

Guessing no

It really does take a Village!

I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

Yes it is and usually that work detail is something the inmate earned for following rules. It's also one of the highest paying jobs for a inmate. So it's a win win all the way around.

Not only that most (if not all) are housed in special housing. Not the general population. Looking to finish their time and get home...most of the time.

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

Stop with the race crap.....

it has nothing to do with race that is filling our jails and prisons. The lack of wealth...

POOR being the number one reason. A poor white male usually gets treated the same as a poor black male. Yes, I know the numbers but I also know the numbers on committing the crimes

(06-08-2017 05:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

Stop with the race crap.....

it has nothing to do with race that is filling our jails and prisons. The lack of wealth...

POOR being the number one reason. A poor white male usually gets treated the same as a poor black male. Yes, I know the numbers but I also know the numbers on committing the crimes

Accepting your premise as true, do you think we have systemic issues that keep blacks poor?

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

If the majority of blacks currently serving time in our prison systems are serving time for victimless, non-violent crimes, then you have a point. If virtually all of these black inmates are guilty of legitimate felonies, then what is the recourse? You then must assume that either: our 1) LEO's give whites who commit felonies a free pass or 2) Police patrol black neighborhoods too heavily.

Pretty heinous, because the solution would then need to be either 1) we need to beef up LEO everywhere to catch the white criminals that are being ignored or 2) We need to look the other way on black crimes so that the prison system demographics better match regional/national demographics.

(06-08-2017 05:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

If the majority of blacks currently serving time in our prison systems are serving time for victimless, non-violent crimes, then you have a point. If virtually all of these black inmates are guilty of legitimate felonies, then what is the recourse? You then must assume that either: our 1) LEO's give whites who commit felonies a free pass or 2) Police patrol black neighborhoods too heavily.

Pretty heinous, because the solution would then need to be either 1) we need to beef up LEO everywhere to catch the white criminals that are being ignored or 2) We need to look the other way on black crimes so that the prison system demographics better match regional/national demographics.

Racial imbalance in American doesn't begin with the justice system, it ends there.

(06-08-2017 05:39 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

Stop with the race crap.....

it has nothing to do with race that is filling our jails and prisons. The lack of wealth...

POOR being the number one reason. A poor white male usually gets treated the same as a poor black male. Yes, I know the numbers but I also know the numbers on committing the crimes

Accepting your premise as true, do you think we have systemic issues that keep blacks poor?

No more than the poor white. Each face the same difficulty of changing their place in life. But it can be done and many examples of doing it in all races.

Life is not fair...you grow up in a middle class home you have a advantage. Most people in jail/prison today has something to do with drugs...

stealing to support a habit
selling to support a habit
selling because its easy money. Lot easier than working for it

A lot of us overcame not having ****. We used a outhouse, with coal stove and no hot water till I was 8.

Most of the people I grew up with have spent time in jail and prison. 90% for drugs.

We have reached a point where it's major dollars for some people if those beds can be filled. The easiest way to keep them filled is writing more laws and longer sentences....

warm bodies and if there's not enough poor white or poor black they will find more ways to fill the beds. I will point out one reason it seems like blacks get longer sentences in prison. While I don't have the number but using my experience on this...

blacks are way more likely to have a gun while committing their crime (drugs) than the white male. And it's not even close.

(06-08-2017 05:46 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

If the majority of blacks currently serving time in our prison systems are serving time for victimless, non-violent crimes, then you have a point. If virtually all of these black inmates are guilty of legitimate felonies, then what is the recourse? You then must assume that either: our 1) LEO's give whites who commit felonies a free pass or 2) Police patrol black neighborhoods too heavily.

Pretty heinous, because the solution would then need to be either 1) we need to beef up LEO everywhere to catch the white criminals that are being ignored or 2) We need to look the other way on black crimes so that the prison system demographics better match regional/national demographics.

Racial imbalance in American doesn't begin with the justice system, it ends there.

As another posted earlier, it's not really a race problem but an economic one. Blacks disproportionately live in the inner cities. The inner cities have little to no real private enterprises that need highly skilled people that would be paid good money. The biggest barriers to attracting businesses to come back to the cities are 1) high city taxes, 2) high crime and 3) infrastructure challenges - especially for a manufacturing plant.

I don't have time to debate this right now but the evidence for systemic racial discrimination is easily found. I do agree that cities face challenges but that doesn't account for what we're talking about.

(06-08-2017 05:24 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I don't see what the big deal is. SCDC inmates work all over state and local government. The kitchens at both the Police and Fire Academies is staffed by inmates.

Hell, in the People's Republican of California they have inmate wildfire crews.


Is using inmate labor not common or something?

My problem is with the discriminatory nature of our justice system. Let's disproportionately throw blacks in jail AND make them serve their mostly white overlords. Not a good look, imo.

That is silly. Working at the Governor's Mansion is a plum job. You only get it for good behavior. If they are mostly black its because they happened to be the most trustworthy.

Hell, if I remember correctly, Governor Huckabee got in trouble for making friends with a convict on the detail and pardoning him. That's a job you want.