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RE: Colangelo Hints at MM Conference Changes
(06-04-2017 04:08 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I could see the Horixzon taking both NMSU and GCU. That would be far better for RPI. For the Great Lakes schoosl going to NMSU, the commuter hop from El Paso to/from Phoenix makes it a reasonable travel partner.


I think the issue Colangelo and Carruthers have is the stability of the WAC. If they can swing a move to the Horizon together, and CSUB joins UCSD in a Big West expansion, that pretty much finishes off the WAC. Chicago State will drop down to the CCAC (NAIA with D-II Basketball), and CBU will probably have to stay down in D-II if this happens in the coming year. Seattle, Utah Valley, UMKC, and UT-RGV will be stranded. My WAG is Seattle will try to get a spot in the Big Sky and UMKC in the Summit, UT-RGV the Southland.

This entire story is a repeat of the NMSU talks. So I guess the Horizon is serious about the Southwest. (I wonder if Stephen F. Austin is being discussed?)

Stu, I am only using your own words. You are calling me names because I am using your words. I don't see anything in your comments that make you seem like a fan of the WAC. GCU and NMSU are not joining a Midwest league, especially one that just lost their best team. Maybe UIC should think about joining the WAC. They could be travel partners with Chicago State.

By the way, I am a fan of the WAC and a supporter of CBU, since I live six miles from the campus. I am looking forward to watching WAC basketball live in the future.
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RE: Colangelo Hints at MM Conference Changes
(06-05-2017 03:40 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  A new conference would have to have 8 members playing together for 8 years to get an auto-bid

The old continuity rule was changed after the Big East split.


I have much respect for Jerry. But he is a Pro guy, that while has some ties to college, doesn't have the impact like he does in the NBA.

So either there was misquoting, or he doesn't fully understand the NCAA rules. And no, the NCAA isn't going to change rules for Jerry and GCU.
Nailed it. The WAC is stable for the short term. When APU makes the move the WAC will be safe for the long term. The WAC will be fine.
06-07-2017 01:31 AM
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(06-05-2017 03:05 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  You noticed, but to fit your perverted narrative you conveniently forgot (and this is why I call you stupid), that I dismissed the prospect of UCSD teaming with CSUB to join the BW, even questioning the basis of Chancellor Khosla's belief that partnering with CSU Bakersfield would be the key to securing the votes to gain an invite to the BW - saying that he very likely got the information from a reporter that simply guessed the reason for the UCSD not getting as being a blockade by the CSU Presidents (something he admitted in private conversation). However Colangelo's remarks about the WAC stability and a desire by GCU to move made me rethink this assumption. Perhaps there really is traction with CSUB and UCSD partnership for the BW. This suddenly breaks up the core fur schools, and destroys the premise of a stable WAC I had been defending.

I think we can write off any UCSD/Bako concept to the BW. If the BW had any interest in Bako they would have poached them already in conjunction with an approval and issuance of a BW invite to UCSD. Safe to say Bako is in the WAC for the long haul unless the BW losses members and a spot opens there...and that ain't happening either.
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All the teams in the WAC can safely say no other conference wants us. Bakersfields fantasy about the Big West is never going to happen, NMSU isn't going anywhere cause of our sucky football program and two major rivals working behind the scenes bto destroy our program, GCU and their for profit module (no matter what GCU fans think, this will stunt your growth). I don't even have to discuss the others. What's ironic is the Wac is not all that bad.
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(06-07-2017 09:09 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  All the teams in the WAC can safely say no other conference wants us. Bakersfields fantasy about the Big West is never going to happen, NMSU isn't going anywhere cause of our sucky football program and two major rivals working behind the scenes bto destroy our program, GCU and their for profit module (no matter what GCU fans think, this will stunt your growth). I don't even have to discuss the others. What's ironic is the Wac is not all that bad.
GCU fans need to get their head out of their behind if they don't think the for profit status is going to hurt us in trying to move to a different conference. The administration gets that, that's why they have been working to try and develop a second plan that will allow us to make the move to nonprofit. However, I do think that it is kinda funny that teams will play us even though if asked about joining their conference, they would probably say no.
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Pretty sure CSUB doesn't have a fantasy about the Big West. There have been no rumors about leaving since joining the WAC, and the UCSD joint admission is fantasy from them. We're here for the long term whatever that may end up being. No offense to anyone but I don't want any part of the California Bus League.
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The Big West is a joke. Give me the Wac any day over that.
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(06-07-2017 12:06 PM)Clarity Wrote:  Pretty sure CSUB doesn't have a fantasy about the Big West. There have been no rumors about leaving since joining the WAC, and the UCSD joint admission is fantasy from them. We're here for the long term whatever that may end up being. No offense to anyone but I don't want any part of the California Bus League.
Agree.
Years back when we began DI, yes, the BW was the only realistic option, way better than Indy. Times have changed, the makeup of tne WAC has changed greatly, and the necessity for that conference has diminished. Dancing is correct, the WAC is not what it was just a couple if years ago. Every good year we have together as a conference, especially in basketball, makes it less likely members look elsewhere. True, the travel is not the greatest, and there is the CSU issue, but there are growth opportunities and one already in progress with CBU, not exactly a DII disaster moving up. I also dont think UCSD re-evaluating as completely out of the question, if they want DI bad enough.

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(06-07-2017 10:48 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 09:09 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  All the teams in the WAC can safely say no other conference wants us. Bakersfields fantasy about the Big West is never going to happen, NMSU isn't going anywhere cause of our sucky football program and two major rivals working behind the scenes bto destroy our program, GCU and their for profit module (no matter what GCU fans think, this will stunt your growth). I don't even have to discuss the others. What's ironic is the Wac is not all that bad.
GCU fans need to get their head out of their behind if they don't think the for profit status is going to hurt us in trying to move to a different conference. The administration gets that, that's why they have been working to try and develop a second plan that will allow us to make the move to nonprofit. However, I do think that it is kinda funny that teams will play us even though if asked about joining their conference, they would probably say no.

The ironic thing is because of GCU's for profit module and having a gillzion online students feeding the purple pig you have the money to pay a celebrity coach big bucks, have 30 different sports teams, build state of the art facilities left and right, etc. However, the stigma of a for profit module and all the bad publicity surrounding it will hold GCU down as long as you stay like that. You may always find a home in the castaway WAC which is BTW better now than many mid major conferences. I love the rivalry with GCU and how GCU students are so obsessed with NMSU. This coming year is going to be so so fun in Vegas! The Orleans will be rocking! Hopefully the BYU Dropout U (Utah Valley) will start building their fan base!
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(06-07-2017 12:06 PM)Clarity Wrote:  Pretty sure CSUB doesn't have a fantasy about the Big West. There have been no rumors about leaving since joining the WAC, and the UCSD joint admission is fantasy from them. We're here for the long term whatever that may end up being. No offense to anyone but I don't want any part of the California Bus League.

None taken. I don't like what it has become either,
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