Of course they want the Paris agreement, it will help squeeze out even more competition or potential competition thus giving them a control in multiple markets.

(06-01-2017 11:02 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Whether we like it or not, we are all interconnected.

"We will no longer surrender this country or it's people to the false song of globalism." -- President Donald J. Trump

This.

We're out!

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/870351077165617152

(06-01-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 12:49 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 12:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Again I'm looking at the larger message it sends to the rest of the world. The message is that we are taking our marbles and going home.

I support America and I approve this message.

That's fine if you support it. Just understand that it means we no longer want to lead the world.

Wrong. It means we no longer want to be led BY the world.

(06-01-2017 01:47 PM)Kronke Wrote:  https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/870351077165617152

We will no longer surrender this country or it's people to the false religion of climate change.

Fair deals!

(06-01-2017 01:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  We will no longer surrender this country or it's people to the false religion of climate change.

American't.

Their interests are not necessarily our interests. I don't care what they want.

Anything that helps strangle or hinder the little guy is good for them.

(06-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 01:53 PM)Kronke Wrote:  We will no longer surrender this country or it's people to the false religion of climate change.

American't.

The public sector can't. That's for damn sure.

(06-01-2017 01:50 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 12:49 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 12:06 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Again I'm looking at the larger message it sends to the rest of the world. The message is that we are taking our marbles and going home.

I support America and I approve this message.

That's fine if you support it. Just understand that it means we no longer want to lead the world.

Wrong. It means we no longer want to be led BY the world.

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

Watch it fall apart now that we are out.

Elon Musk is the biggest fraud in the last 100 years. Who cares what he says.

From Yahoo...notice the word "raised"... yeah raised my ass


"The Green Climate Fund, intended to help less-developed nations move to clean energy and adapt to climate change, has raised a total of around $10 billion from advanced economies so far, including $3 billion from the U.S. The long-term goal is for $100 billion a year from all sources by 2020.

He said this trend is resulting in fewer jobs, lower wages, shuttered factors and diminished economic production.



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(06-01-2017 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  http://fortune.com/2017/06/01/apple-goog...is-accord/

Aside from Elon Musk and Tim Cook, looks like most of the giant oil companies also want to see the U.S. abide by the agreement. Whether we like it or not, we are all interconnected. Even if the agreement is largely lip service only, the appearance of supporting it alone is important to long term U.S. business prospects on an international level. Emissions should drop naturally over time as technology evolves, so why rock the boat when you don't have to?

The fact it put a greater burden on us than BRIC made this a bad deal.

(06-01-2017 11:51 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Big business loves regulation, the more the better, because they can absorb the costs better than their smaller competitors.

True, but the Paris accord is nonbinding. You do some mea culpas, sponsor legislation you know will fail and pound legislation favorable to growth.

You do realize the only thing worse than not fixing a problem is pretending to fix a problem, right?

Funny im seeing all of these tech billionaires and various companies... and Al Gore say they are going to continue on yada yada yada

Have at it...by all means... continue on....

Open up your pocket and spend your $$



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(06-01-2017 05:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:51 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-01-2017 11:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Big business loves regulation, the more the better, because they can absorb the costs better than their smaller competitors.

True, but the Paris accord is nonbinding. You do some mea culpas, sponsor legislation you know will fail and pound legislation favorable to growth.

You do realize the only thing worse than not fixing a problem is pretending to fix a problem, right?

I wouldnt mind them "pretending" to fix the problem. I just dont want them spending my money to do it.

This thing sounds like it was set up to be another "Nato" type fund, where Merkel sits around on her ass and wanted us to make up for Germany's shortfall.

(06-01-2017 05:24 PM)maximus Wrote:  Elon Musk is the biggest fraud in the last 100 years. Who cares what he says.

From Yahoo...notice the word "raised"... yeah raised my ass


"The Green Climate Fund, intended to help less-developed nations move to clean energy and adapt to climate change, has raised a total of around $10 billion from advanced economies so far, including $3 billion from the U.S. The long-term goal is for $100 billion a year from all sources by 2020.

He said this trend is resulting in fewer jobs, lower wages, shuttered factors and diminished economic production.



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Musk is the king of crony capitalism. His Tesla company wouldn't exist without the huge subsidies he gets all to produce a car that few can afford. So him leaving the President's council is great. Maybe he can leave his subsidies there in D.C. when he leaves.