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RE: Slightly Less Way Too Early But Still Way Too Early Mid-Major Madness Power Rankings
(06-01-2017 02:56 AM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  
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(05-31-2017 07:09 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I find it interesting that NMSU is still ranked in this poll given all our defections. Alot will be riding on AJ Harris' ability to run the team and Ndir's ability to stay healthy. I think NMSU is solid in the front court with Chuha carrying most of the interior scoring load. Marlon Jones should be a big help this season. NMSU just needs more bodies to fill the wings.

I have higher expectations for the other Jones. Watching Jemerrio play is like looking into Oscar Frayer's future. Both are freakishly athletic & can/will be gamechangers in at least a handful of contests this season.

I would love to see Majerle stick O on J. Jones for a game, just to see them go at it. Was really surprised it didn't happen when Jemerrio was eating GCU's lunch on the boards last season. I honestly thought Frayer was the only player who could keep a body on him. That didn't happen & we all saw the results.

I think that part of the reason is that he wanted to keep Oscar's length on the perimeter. His numbers in blocks and boards would be inflated even more if he moved him to play inside. I also think he needs to bulk up if he wants to play inside some more.

The only problem with that is he is a 25% 3 point shooter. He will need to improve that stat.

Agreed, but I also don't think Lopes need Frayer to fill it up from 3 to live up to the "way too early MMM Top 25 blah, blah, blah" billing. I believe his defensive abilities are what kept him on the floor and drew him the most praise last season. Also, as the season progressed and his confidence grew, we saw O's offensive game move from perimeter to more flying around inside the arch. His shot selection shifted from upwards of seven 3pt attempts per game down to 3-4. Simultaneously, his rebounding average moved steadily upward over the last half of the season, finishing Top 15 in the WAC. Frayer does need to improve his shooting & does need to add some bulk/strength, but I think he started to see his offensive game will be both outside & inside in the future.

While I don't think you (Frank) are really interested in breaking down strengths & weaknesses of each player on GCU's roster, I will add that the player I'm throwing under the bus for 3PT% is Gerard Martin. If he can't figure it out, he needs to just stop. There is no reason for someone with a .267 3PT% to be taking 75% of his shots from out there. Martin's 2PT% was actually a respectable .526 last season (Frayer's 2PT% was also .520). I never want to hear Majerle say "...but he makes those shots in practice" again when talking about Gerard's dreadful 3 point shooting. Either fix it or stop taking 3s, mate.
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RE: Slightly Less Way Too Early But Still Way Too Early Mid-Major Madness Power Rankings
(06-01-2017 07:28 AM)gleadley Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 02:56 AM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 11:10 PM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:17 PM)gleadley Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 07:09 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I find it interesting that NMSU is still ranked in this poll given all our defections. Alot will be riding on AJ Harris' ability to run the team and Ndir's ability to stay healthy. I think NMSU is solid in the front court with Chuha carrying most of the interior scoring load. Marlon Jones should be a big help this season. NMSU just needs more bodies to fill the wings.

I have higher expectations for the other Jones. Watching Jemerrio play is like looking into Oscar Frayer's future. Both are freakishly athletic & can/will be gamechangers in at least a handful of contests this season.

I would love to see Majerle stick O on J. Jones for a game, just to see them go at it. Was really surprised it didn't happen when Jemerrio was eating GCU's lunch on the boards last season. I honestly thought Frayer was the only player who could keep a body on him. That didn't happen & we all saw the results.

I think that part of the reason is that he wanted to keep Oscar's length on the perimeter. His numbers in blocks and boards would be inflated even more if he moved him to play inside. I also think he needs to bulk up if he wants to play inside some more.

The only problem with that is he is a 25% 3 point shooter. He will need to improve that stat.

Agreed, but I also don't think Lopes need Frayer to fill it up from 3 to live up to the "way too early MMM Top 25 blah, blah, blah" billing. I believe his defensive abilities are what kept him on the floor and drew him the most praise last season. Also, as the season progressed and his confidence grew, we saw O's offensive game move from perimeter to more flying around inside the arch. His shot selection shifted from upwards of seven 3pt attempts per game down to 3-4. Simultaneously, his rebounding average moved steadily upward over the last half of the season, finishing Top 15 in the WAC. Frayer does need to improve his shooting & does need to add some bulk/strength, but I think he started to see his offensive game will be both outside & inside in the future.

While I don't think you (Frank) are really interested in breaking down strengths & weaknesses of each player on GCU's roster, I will add that the player I'm throwing under the bus for 3PT% is Gerard Martin. If he can't figure it out, he needs to just stop. There is no reason for someone with a .267 3PT% to be taking 75% of his shots from out there. Martin's 2PT% was actually a respectable .526 last season (Frayer's 2PT% was also .520). I never want to hear Majerle say "...but he makes those shots in practice" again when talking about Gerard's dreadful 3 point shooting. Either fix it or stop taking 3s, mate.
Well part of the problem was that he was making a bunch the season before, but last season he started shooting bricks. Chances are that he changed his motion summer 2016 and that's what threw him off last year. I don't disagree with you that if he can't make them, he needs to stop jacking them up, but I hope the shooting percentage from three this past season was a blip on the radar.
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(05-31-2017 10:35 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  New Mexico State drops one spot down to 19 while GCU jumps into the Top 25. Things that stand out to me: there is a team who had a losing record last year in the Top 10, somehow SDSU is in the Top 25, they clearly think Bako still needs some work, and the Rhodies are in the top 3 with a signing class that includes DeWayne's younger brother, Daron. The rest of the rankings can be found here.

I think Western Kentucky is there since they signed Mitchell Robinson C, a 5 star recruit.
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(05-31-2017 10:35 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  New Mexico State drops one spot down to 19 while GCU jumps into the Top 25. Things that stand out to me: there is a team who had a losing record last year in the Top 10, somehow SDSU is in the Top 25, they clearly think Bako still needs some work, and the Rhodies are in the top 3 with a signing class that includes DeWayne's younger brother, Daron. The rest of the rankings can be found here.

I think Western Kentucky is there since they signed Mitchell Robinson C, a 5 star recruit.

Ben Simmons, LSU. That's all I am going to say about that.
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(06-01-2017 11:27 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:35 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  New Mexico State drops one spot down to 19 while GCU jumps into the Top 25. Things that stand out to me: there is a team who had a losing record last year in the Top 10, somehow SDSU is in the Top 25, they clearly think Bako still needs some work, and the Rhodies are in the top 3 with a signing class that includes DeWayne's younger brother, Daron. The rest of the rankings can be found here.

I think Western Kentucky is there since they signed Mitchell Robinson C, a 5 star recruit.

And two other 4-star top 100 players on top of that. WKU is stacked for CUSA play.
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(06-01-2017 12:46 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 11:27 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:35 AM)ThunderDan49 Wrote:  New Mexico State drops one spot down to 19 while GCU jumps into the Top 25. Things that stand out to me: there is a team who had a losing record last year in the Top 10, somehow SDSU is in the Top 25, they clearly think Bako still needs some work, and the Rhodies are in the top 3 with a signing class that includes DeWayne's younger brother, Daron. The rest of the rankings can be found here.

I think Western Kentucky is there since they signed Mitchell Robinson C, a 5 star recruit.

And two other 4-star top 100 players on top of that. WKU is stacked for CUSA play.


Yes they are. How many times have you seen a team of their ilk land a top 10 recruiting class? Super impressive. Paper monsters for sure.
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I told you New Mexico State was the favorite to win the WAC still. We still have to much talent not to be the favorite.


PG - AJ Harris - 80th rated 2015 recruit
SG - Sidy Ndir - 13.7 PPG, 49% FG%, 37% 3FG%
SF - J. Jones - 9.7 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.0 APG, 50% FG%
PF - E. Chuha - 12.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 61% FG%
C - J. Wilkins - 5.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 55% FG%


The best starting five in the WAC in my opinion. [/u]
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(06-01-2017 04:15 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  I told you New Mexico State was the favorite to win the WAC still. We still have to much talent not to be the favorite.


PG - AJ Harris - 80th rated 2015 recruit
SG - Sidy Ndir - 13.7 PPG, 49% FG%, 37% 3FG%
SF - J. Jones - 9.7 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.0 APG, 50% FG%
PF - E. Chuha - 12.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 61% FG%
C - J. Wilkins - 5.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 55% FG%


The best starting five in the WAC in my opinion. [/u]

I might be in the minority with Frank on this, but I tend to agree with him here. I think NMSU will win the WAC next year even with a new coach
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(06-01-2017 04:51 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 04:15 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  I told you New Mexico State was the favorite to win the WAC still. We still have to much talent not to be the favorite.


PG - AJ Harris - 80th rated 2015 recruit
SG - Sidy Ndir - 13.7 PPG, 49% FG%, 37% 3FG%
SF - J. Jones - 9.7 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.0 APG, 50% FG%
PF - E. Chuha - 12.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 61% FG%
C - J. Wilkins - 5.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 55% FG%


The best starting five in the WAC in my opinion. [/u]

I might be in the minority with Frank on this, but I tend to agree with him here. I think NMSU will win the WAC next year even with a new coach

Good news is message board majorities & minorities don't mean a thing when it comes to actual games being played. My biggest question is "Who is Frank working so hard to convince that NMSU will be the best in the WAC: Us or himself?"
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(06-02-2017 12:38 AM)gleadley Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 04:51 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 04:15 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  I told you New Mexico State was the favorite to win the WAC still. We still have to much talent not to be the favorite.


PG - AJ Harris - 80th rated 2015 recruit
SG - Sidy Ndir - 13.7 PPG, 49% FG%, 37% 3FG%
SF - J. Jones - 9.7 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 3.0 APG, 50% FG%
PF - E. Chuha - 12.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 61% FG%
C - J. Wilkins - 5.5 PPG, 3.0 RPG, 55% FG%


The best starting five in the WAC in my opinion. [/u]

I might be in the minority with Frank on this, but I tend to agree with him here. I think NMSU will win the WAC next year even with a new coach

Good news is message board majorities & minorities don't mean a thing when it comes to actual games being played. My biggest question is "Who is Frank working so hard to convince that NMSU will be the best in the WAC: Us or himself?"

I don't need to convince you that NMSU is the best in the WAC because NMSU is the best in the WAC. We have probably the most talented basketball team in the WAC with one of the best X's and O's coaches in the nation.

NMSU also has two WAC Player of the Year Candidates.

SG Sidy Ndir 6'2 Sophomore





PF Eli Chuha 6'8 Junior






This Aggie basketball team is going to be fun to watch next season.
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