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Which school is New York's flagship?
Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
(05-31-2017 10:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?

When I saw the thread headline my immediate thought was Syracuse.

Guess that's all that needs to be said.
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
I would say Syracuse buts that's a distant perspective.
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(05-31-2017 10:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?

I'm certain it's Rutgers. They're in the Big Ten and deliver the NYC market, right? Nevermind that the school is also the flagship university of New Jersey.
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
New York has four "university centers" which are roughly the equivalent of flagships: Buffalo, Albany, Binghamton, and Stony Brook.

Although the land grant school in New York is Cornell - the only other state whose land grant is a private school is Massachusetts (theirs is MIT).
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
Cornell
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
Assuming we are talking about the academics and not some idea of who gets the most play on TV NY has 4 university centers that are the flagships of the State University of NY. Those four are in no particular order Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook, and Albany.

Rutgers is not a NY school and Syracuse is private so I do not see them as being viewed as NY's flag ship universities.

One could try to push in Cornell since they are partly public but honestly they do not really fit due to their partly private nature (many do not know it is partly public).

If we are going for football season then Penn State, Notre Dame, and Syracuse are all big in upstate NY (just as a heads up upstate NY alone is still in the range of being the 13th largest state or so so it is not a small state keep that in mind).

In basketball Syracuse gets the most play in upstate NY.
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
Rutgers is in New Jersey

Syracuse is private

the SUNY System does not have a flagship

and if you were going to include Syracuse even though it is private then Cornell should be included and the answer would be Cornell because it is the land grant university of NY and it also has other public components like labor management

Syracuse has no public components at all even with SUNY ESF right next door because SUNY ESF is an independent university with it's own degree granting authority and administration and they only have a cooperative agreement with Syracuse while the public parts of Cornell are fully a part of and under the administration of Cornell and grant Cornell degrees

for that matter you could toss in Alfred University because of the NYC College of Ceramics

but Cornell would be the top university of the bunch both in and out of NY and the Land Grant university for NY so the answer by the criteria shown from the OP is Cornell
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(05-31-2017 10:37 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  New York has four "university centers" which are roughly the equivalent of flagships: Buffalo, Albany, Binghamton, and Stony Brook.

Although the land grant school in New York is Cornell - the only other state whose land grant is a private school is Massachusetts (theirs is MIT).

UMass is more so the Land Grant now even though MIT still also holds the designation as well as UMass
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(05-31-2017 10:37 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  New York has four "university centers" which are roughly the equivalent of flagships: Buffalo, Albany, Binghamton, and Stony Brook.

Although the land grant school in New York is Cornell - the only other state whose land grant is a private school is Massachusetts (theirs is MIT).


Tuskegee is a land grant private university in Alabama.
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
Rutgers is A flagship.

Just not New York's.

Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey, is the school's official title.
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(05-31-2017 10:19 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?

When I saw the thread headline my immediate thought was Syracuse.

Guess that's all that needs to be said.

Ha...my first thought was "there will be a UCONN poster in here."

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(05-31-2017 11:33 AM)megadrone Wrote:  Rutgers is A flagship.

Just not New York's.

Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey, is the school's official title.

Yup.

The flagship of New York is neither Buffalo nor Stony Brook, rather Columbia, a private school which has a partnershipship with the State of NY for their big Medical school.
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(05-31-2017 10:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?

03-idea Well, not Rutgers because it is a New Jersey university. 07-coffee3
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RE: Which school is New York's flagship?
I kinda see Syracuse of being New York's flagship university, even though they are private, because Syracuse just kinda overshadows everybody else in NY for athletics. They're a lot like USC, only USC has some much stronger in-state athletic opposition, and USC is more well known than Syracuse. If Syracuse ever did become a public university (like Rutgers or the earliest incarnation of Auburn-started out as a methodist school, believe it or not-did), I would think it would be automatically the undisputed flagship for the SUNY system.
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(05-31-2017 11:50 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:19 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:01 AM)ArQ Wrote:  Buffalo, Syracuse or Rutgers?

When I saw the thread headline my immediate thought was Syracuse.

Guess that's all that needs to be said.

Ha...my first thought was "there will be a UCONN poster in here."

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(05-31-2017 10:39 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Rutgers is not a NY school and Syracuse is private so I do not see them as being viewed as NY's flag ship universities.

Right now most people think Stanford is the flagship of California even Stanford is private. They just take advantage of the fact that University of California is divided into nine parts thus the resource is limited in each part. It seems that New York State University has recognized the problem and made Buffalo the center above Binghamton, Albany and Stony Brook. The question is when the public will recognize it and acknowledge it. Also University of California is in the process to make UCLA the flagship, above the other eight schools for the same reason.
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(05-31-2017 12:41 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(05-31-2017 10:39 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  Rutgers is not a NY school and Syracuse is private so I do not see them as being viewed as NY's flag ship universities.

Right now most people think Stanford is the flagship of California even Stanford is private. They just take advantage of the fact that University of California is divided into nine parts thus the resource is limited in each part. It seems that New York State University has recognized the problem and made Buffalo the center above Binghamton, Albany and Stony Brook. The question is when the public will recognize it and acknowledge it. Also University of California is in the process to make UCLA the flagship, above the other eight schools for the same reason.

I don't know anyone on earth that would think that Stanford is the flagship university of CA and I can't imagine anyone that even knows the term "flagship" would not know Stanford is private

and the reason that people do not view Cal (Berkeley) as the flagship as much is because under "the California plan for higher education" all of the UC System schools are treated the same and have the same goals and all of them (and more so the UC System) are considered a land grant school and the land grant aspect is handled at the system level even though Davis is now viewed as the land grant component

but the reality is Cal is still "Cal" and Davis and Riverside started out as research farms for Cal back when Cal was the land grant for the state and before "the California plan" was put in place that made the UC System the research system and the CSU System into a system with no flagship and with few PhDs offered and the ones offered almost exclusively being offered in conjunction with a UC System school

and the UC System is not remotely turning UCLA into the flagship of the system that would go fully against the California plan and there is no way that Cal (or the other system components) would stand for that

plus Cal is still higher ranked as a university and outside of UCSF that is a medical component it is UCSD that does the most total research in the system even over UCLA and Cal

mainly because Cal does not have a medical school component
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