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That's why the Keatts system of pressing and running was so important. Utilizing the press negates the potential higher talent level of other teams, and hides a potential talent deficit of your team. It's the primary reason Keatts was able to take players, none of whom went on to a pro career, and propel them from last in the conference to a 1st place tie in his first year.
05-31-2017 02:11 PM
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(05-31-2017 02:11 PM)82hawk Wrote:  That's why the Keatts system of pressing and running was so important. Utilizing the press negates the potential higher talent level of other teams, and hides a potential talent deficit of your team. It's the primary reason Keatts was able to take players, none of whom went on to a pro career, and propel them from last in the conference to a 1st place tie in his first year.

Debatable. We were arguably more talented than any team in the CAA the last two years. When we did play against more talented teams, specifically P5 schools, we lost. I'm not into morale victories, although we were competitive in most of those games, with the exception of Clemson, we never got that signature win under Keatts and better/bigger talent always won out.
05-31-2017 02:21 PM
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You need some size to advance in the Big Dance. You've got to be able to stop direct drives/have good help and you need rim protection/rebounding. That's the key and why UNCW lost 2 close NCAA games in a row.
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(05-31-2017 06:31 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  You need some size to advance in the Big Dance. You've got to be able to stop direct drives/have good help and you need rim protection/rebounding. That's the key and why UNCW lost 2 close NCAA games in a row.

Dead on. This is why I hoped we'd use Chuck more throughout the regular season. We needed someone else to protect against the rim when we got to the tournament. His ability was limited but I do think he could have helped with some weak side shot blocking when guards blew by us in the half court.
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Let's not forget, Keatts was only here for 3 years and he was successful in all three of those years. ANY school in the CAA would have been ecstatic to trade places with us. As a brand new coach, coming off a decade of awful basketball and records, Keatts took the best available players who could put the ball in the basket. We had talent but not size...but the size was on its' way. Every one of his incoming recruits was at least 6'5" and athletic.

My point was simple. His COACHING made a positive impact, and allowed him to win games with a roster that had weaknesses. And the very specific style of play, which focused on using the press, allowed him to put a winning product on the floor from day one. WITHOUT the pressing style, I doubt he could have replicated his success. I think we are going to see that trying to simply "out talent" and "out coach" our way to success, without using the press is going to be a challenge.
06-01-2017 02:57 AM
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(06-01-2017 02:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Let's not forget, Keatts was only here for 3 years and he was successful in all three of those years. ANY school in the CAA would have been ecstatic to trade places with us.

Very true. Before we did it last year, there were only 2 instances since 1991 where a CAA squad won back to back titles. The most recent was 2009-11 when ODU did it. The time before was....us, in 2001-03.

Not winning NCAA Tournament games isn't exactly a stain on Keatts' record. We were very competitive in 2 games against programs with nearly unlimited resources.
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(06-01-2017 07:13 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 02:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Let's not forget, Keatts was only here for 3 years and he was successful in all three of those years. ANY school in the CAA would have been ecstatic to trade places with us.


Not winning NCAA Tournament games isn't exactly a stain on Keatts' record. We were very competitive in 2 games against programs with nearly unlimited resources.
So you like Morale victories? I'm sorry we were very good and i was interested in making that next step. He couldn't provide that next step for us as good as we were. Maybe if he had focused on his current team instead of negotiating his next contract, we would have gotten it done last year!
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(06-01-2017 08:16 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 07:13 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 02:57 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Let's not forget, Keatts was only here for 3 years and he was successful in all three of those years. ANY school in the CAA would have been ecstatic to trade places with us.


Not winning NCAA Tournament games isn't exactly a stain on Keatts' record. We were very competitive in 2 games against programs with nearly unlimited resources.
So you like Morale victories? I'm sorry we were very good and i was interested in making that next step. He couldn't provide that next step for us as good as we were. Maybe if he had focused on his current team instead of negotiating his next contract, we would have gotten it done last year!

Yes, I'm ok with moral victories after getting a ton of actual victories. 2 CAA titles in a row after 10 years without a CAA title was a huge "next step". And it helped attract a very solid coaching staff and recruitment class.

Our program is now a "destination", not an afterthought.
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No part of me believes that we lost to UVA because Keatts wasn't focused. It's okay to be upset about CJ and acknowledge the good that Keatts accomplished while here. I'm still hopeful that we get NCSU on the schedule soon; I'm not an insider by any stretch, but I don't think there have been any burned bridges.
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(06-01-2017 08:56 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  No part of me believes that we lost to UVA because Keatts wasn't focused. It's okay to be upset about CJ and acknowledge the good that Keatts accomplished while here. I'm still hopeful that we get NCSU on the schedule soon; I'm not an insider by any stretch, but I don't think there have been any burned bridges.
You are probably right, but he clearly had it on his mind and had made prior contact. So, it certainly couldn't have helped. As far as the bridges go, I find out hard to believe people wouldn't be pissed about him pouching the best player. I however, place a good deal of that blame on Bass for letting him out of his scolly and not blocking state. Amateur move.
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