My understanding about how refs are chosen for Independents could be wrong, so have to ask, how are they chosen.

It was my understanding the university decides which conference refs to use. In our, UMass, case it's American refs. There is a caveat for P5 teams as it seems. Even thou it's your home game, the P5 teams contract in to use their refs.

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Regardless if the visiting team brings it's refs, the official in charge for replays (replay booth) is from your chosen conference.

Liberty from the sounds of it will be also getting American refs.

idk about that. Obviously Notre Dame runs with the ACC. BYU is the next longest running independent so will be interesting to hear who they use for home game refs.

(05-28-2017 10:00 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  My understanding about how refs are chosen for Independents could be wrong, so have to ask, how are they chosen.

It was my understanding the university decides which conference refs to use. In our, UMass, case it's American refs. There is a caveat for P5 teams as it seems. Even thou it's your home game, the P5 teams contract in to use their refs.

In P5 vs. P5 games, the conference of the visiting team usually supplies the officials.

(05-28-2017 10:54 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  idk about that. Obviously Notre Dame runs with the ACC. BYU is the next longest running independent so will be interesting to hear who they use for home game refs.

Army is actually next longest running Independent.

(05-28-2017 11:58 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 10:54 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  idk about that. Obviously Notre Dame runs with the ACC. BYU is the next longest running independent so will be interesting to hear who they use for home game refs.

Army is actually next longest running Independent.

Yup, my error. Who do they use for home refs?

We bring our refs to away non conference games. I think against BYU we supply the refs.

BYU uses refs from the MWC.


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Historically, ND used the refs from the conference of the opposing team at home games, since it had no such thing of its own.

I believe Liberty and the Big South use ACC refs. I imagine that would continue to be the case for Liberty due to our proximity and relationships with ACC schools and the Big South. The real question for my ignorance is what rules do they go by since every conference has slightly different rules?

(05-29-2017 08:51 AM)LibertyOrangeman Wrote:  I believe Liberty and the Big South use ACC refs. I imagine that would continue to be the case for Liberty due to our proximity and relationships with ACC schools and the Big South. The real question for my ignorance is what rules do they go by since every conference has slightly different rules?

What rules are different?

BYU uses B12 refs:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsbyuspo...fullpage=1

I thought the normal convention was that the away team provides refs in OOC games. Bowls have a neutral ref.

(05-29-2017 01:16 PM)ManleyPointer Wrote:  BYU uses B12 refs:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsbyuspo...fullpage=1

I thought the normal convention was that the away team provides refs in OOC games. Bowls have a neutral ref.

Thanks for the link and think the official in the replay booth is very important. Not positive this article specific address it but could assume it's the Big 12 official for all home games. Here the officiating crew and the replay both from the old Big East called this missed PAT good. Not much you can do for away games, but you need to have your chosen conference official calling it in the replay booth.

We had a home game with opposing refs call the game, call a pass in the end zone an incomplete pass. The American ref in the replay booth reviewed and over ruled them as a touch down.

Quote:However, BYU has an agreement with the Big 12 to officiate games where the contract calls for BYU to choose, or assign, the officials. Every play in every such game is reviewed by the Big 12's supervisor of officials.

UMass hopes to land in the AAC some day.
Perhaps BYU hopes to land in the B12.

So curious in the conference refs chosen by Liberty and New Mexico.
Would think Liberty would chose CUSA and New Mexico State the MWC.

(05-29-2017 08:51 AM)LibertyOrangeman Wrote:  I believe Liberty and the Big South use ACC refs. I imagine that would continue to be the case for Liberty due to our proximity and relationships with ACC schools and the Big South. The real question for my ignorance is what rules do they go by since every conference has slightly different rules?

Pretty sure at one time the ACC had a partnership with the SoCon, Big South, SIAC, CIAA, and SAC in regards to training and coordinating football officials.


EDIT - I decided to go check and I can definitely say that at least as late as 2015 the ACC and the Big South were working together.

http://www.theacc.com/news/Apply-ACC-Football-Official

Quote:For those interested in becoming an Atlantic Coast Conference and Big South Conference football official, applications are accepted and reviewed only January 1st to February 15th of each calendar year. Minimum experience criteria for consideration is five years of high school officiating experience PLUS five years of NCAA football officiating experience at ANY level.