Guys, the BW isn't going to splinter along CSU/UC lines and form 2 conferences because of UCSD's rejection. The UCSD rejection is more a display of the BW's lack of vision and ingenuity and not its desire to split among political lines. The BW provides a nice home that minimizes costs associated with sponsoring D1 sports among like minded (and funded) Cali schools.

BW shouldn't be adding anyone unless they can deliver an at-large berth, or somehow bring money into the BW coffers. UCSD offers neither in the short term and the BW doesn't have the capacity to think and plan long term so their inclusion is a non-starter.

(05-29-2017 04:20 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  Guys, the BW isn't going to splinter along CSU/UC lines and form 2 conferences because of UCSD's rejection. The UCSD rejection is more a display of the BW's lack of vision and ingenuity and not its desire to split among political lines. The BW provides a nice home that minimizes costs associated with sponsoring D1 sports among like minded (and funded) Cali schools.

BW shouldn't be adding anyone unless they can deliver an at-large berth, or somehow bring money into the BW coffers. UCSD offers neither in the short term and the BW doesn't have the capacity to think and plan long term so their inclusion is a non-starter.

I'm not anticipating an eminent split by any means but there are a handful of schools, a UC and two Cal St's, that would rather be with the schools in their systems than their current home. It's a shame that the vision isn't there to see that UCSD adds long term value.

They need either UC-Merced or UC-Santa Cruz to move up.

(05-29-2017 06:00 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  They need either UC-Merced or UC-Santa Cruz to move up.

UC Merced does not have enough sports for D2 and no women's spring sport so they are not eligible to apply for D2 much less D1. UC Santa Cruz is on the edge of dropping sports, they can't afford the additional cost of adding athletic scholarships.

It's not a true expansion thread until D2 schools are brought up

(05-29-2017 07:54 PM)solohawks Wrote:  It's not a true expansion thread until D2 schools are brought up

The sad part is neither school is even D2.

(05-29-2017 07:54 PM)solohawks Wrote:  It's not a true expansion thread until D2 schools are brought up

David has ideas about creating new colleges, just so they can start a football team.

Getting this thread back on track. It would make sense to me for the Big Sky and the Big West to work together like the ASun and Big South. Let the Big West have California and let the Big Sky have the rest of the west and football. Just doesn't make any sense to send non revenue sports any further than you have to. Let Sac St go to the Big West for non revenue sports and contract the footprint

(05-29-2017 04:20 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  Guys, the BW isn't going to splinter along CSU/UC lines and form 2 conferences because of UCSD's rejection. The UCSD rejection is more a display of the BW's lack of vision and ingenuity and not its desire to split among political lines. The BW provides a nice home that minimizes costs associated with sponsoring D1 sports among like minded (and funded) Cali schools.

BW shouldn't be adding anyone unless they can deliver an at-large berth, or somehow bring money into the BW coffers. UCSD offers neither in the short term and the BW doesn't have the capacity to think and plan long term so their inclusion is a non-starter.

The lack of vision and ingenuity frustrates me more than anything else. It's a shame the chancellors won't swallow their pride and show some creativity because there are schools outside California who would make the BW stronger. I'd make a push for Grand Canyon if I was one of the presidents or chancellors.

As it stands, unless the chancellors do open their doors to a private for-profit, and unless UNLV or Nevada decide to go independent in football, the only school available who can deliver an at-large bid is NMSU and Hawaii might not want that trip again.

(05-30-2017 12:14 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 04:20 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  Guys, the BW isn't going to splinter along CSU/UC lines and form 2 conferences because of UCSD's rejection. The UCSD rejection is more a display of the BW's lack of vision and ingenuity and not its desire to split among political lines. The BW provides a nice home that minimizes costs associated with sponsoring D1 sports among like minded (and funded) Cali schools.

BW shouldn't be adding anyone unless they can deliver an at-large berth, or somehow bring money into the BW coffers. UCSD offers neither in the short term and the BW doesn't have the capacity to think and plan long term so their inclusion is a non-starter.

The lack of vision and ingenuity frustrates me more than anything else. It's a shame the chancellors won't swallow their pride and show some creativity because there are schools outside California who would make the BW stronger. I'd make a push for Grand Canyon if I was one of the presidents or chancellors.

As it stands, unless the chancellors do open their doors to a private for-profit, and unless UNLV or Nevada decide to go independent in football, the only school available who can deliver an at-large bid is NMSU and Hawaii might not want that trip again.

Just looked at the baseball RPI, and only two Big West schools were in the top 100. If any sport should be made for the Big West, it's baseball. But for only two schools to even get in the top 100 indicates a woeful commitment by Big West schools to athletics. You'll continue to be disappointed. Kicking out Idaho, Utah St and NMSU was probably the worst decision the Big West ever made, all for reducing expenses. Just shows the lack of commitment be nearly all those schools (Hawaii excepted and maybe Cal Poly).

Just a down year for the BW. last year it earned three bids, in 2014 four bids and three in 2013.