DSF, I don't see anywhere that the author says Conservatism is bad...he is one. He's saying what you're letting trump do to it by fostering these idiotic conspiracy theories like Seth Rich, 3 million illegals voting, etc. are ruining the movement.

And he's not comparing anything to the last administration...because if it was so bad as you say...why would you want to be held to that standard?

And while sure you can balance against those who are saying trump should be impeached (of which I'm not unless by some chance collusion is proven), but you can't do it with nonsense like Seth Rich!

And while the collusion is not proven, there is reason for the Russia story to continue. Republicans are leading congressional investigations into it. There's too many ties to Russia between Flynn, Kushner and all the trump people who ironically all forgot to list meetings with Russians on their paperwork for things like security clearances. You also have the strong possibility that trump may have attempted to obstruct or pervert justice. So even if collusion is never proven against trump, there is still valid things here that are worthy of media coverage and that have to be fully investigated. The job of congress does not change when their majority party is the same as the presidents party. That's a cornerstone of our founding.

(05-26-2017 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to Michael Gerson, a former top aide to President George W. Bush as assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.

Quote:The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased. The movement has been seized by a kind of discrediting madness, in which conspiracy delusions figure prominently. Institutions and individuals that once served an important ideological role, providing a balance to media bias, are discrediting themselves in crucial ways. With the blessings of a president, they have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion. They have allowed political polarization to reach their hearts, and harden them. They have allowed polarization to dominate their minds, and empty them.

The conservative mind has become diseased

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There go you liberal loons co-opting our playbook again. We've said for years that liberalism is a mental disorder.

yeah we had a guy write a book on it too...

(05-26-2017 09:46 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  People inhabit the land ...

too easy, next!

(05-26-2017 03:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  DSF, I don't see anywhere that the author says Conservatism is bad...he is one. He's saying what you're letting trump do to it by fostering these idiotic conspiracy theories like Seth Rich, 3 million illegals voting, etc. are ruining the movement.

lol @ "ruining the movement". I don't think the GOP has ever been this dominant across all levels of gov't

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(05-26-2017 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:42 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to Michael Gerson, a former top aide to President George W. Bush as assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.

Quote:The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased. The movement has been seized by a kind of discrediting madness, in which conspiracy delusions figure prominently. Institutions and individuals that once served an important ideological role, providing a balance to media bias, are discrediting themselves in crucial ways. With the blessings of a president, they have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion. They have allowed political polarization to reach their hearts, and harden them. They have allowed polarization to dominate their minds, and empty them.

The conservative mind has become diseased

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I could change a few words around and perfectly describe the democratic party of the last 25 years

I mostly agree. That's why I'm not one. Although I don't think they normally play into the conspiracy theories quite like the right-wing and their blogoshere does...but it's close.

The democrats have been in full conspiracy theory mode since the day after the election, every single day since, are you kidding me with that crap? Laughable.

(05-26-2017 03:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  DSF, I don't see anywhere that the author says Conservatism is bad...he is one.

I doubt you'll find many self-respecting, honest to God conservatives who will say that anybody connected to the GWB administration is a conservative.

(05-26-2017 04:08 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 10:42 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to Michael Gerson, a former top aide to President George W. Bush as assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.

Quote:The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased. The movement has been seized by a kind of discrediting madness, in which conspiracy delusions figure prominently. Institutions and individuals that once served an important ideological role, providing a balance to media bias, are discrediting themselves in crucial ways. With the blessings of a president, they have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion. They have allowed political polarization to reach their hearts, and harden them. They have allowed polarization to dominate their minds, and empty them.

The conservative mind has become diseased

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I could change a few words around and perfectly describe the democratic party of the last 25 years

I mostly agree. That's why I'm not one. Although I don't think they normally play into the conspiracy theories quite like the right-wing and their blogoshere does...but it's close.

The democrats have been in full conspiracy theory mode since the day after the election, every single day since, are you kidding me with that crap? Laughable.

On what, one issue really? And so far it turns out to be coming mostly to fruition. So much so that it might have forced trump, even if he is innocent, to potentially commit a crime.

I call that a win...lol

But no, I'm not pretending that the democrats are innocent, but if you can't see the tremendous amount of conspiracy theories coming out of the right wing you're not being honest.

I mean c'mon from the clinton body count, to birtherism, to pizza gate and on and on.

(05-26-2017 04:02 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-26-2017 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to Michael Gerson, a former top aide to President George W. Bush as assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.

Quote:The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased. The movement has been seized by a kind of discrediting madness, in which conspiracy delusions figure prominently. Institutions and individuals that once served an important ideological role, providing a balance to media bias, are discrediting themselves in crucial ways. With the blessings of a president, they have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion. They have allowed political polarization to reach their hearts, and harden them. They have allowed polarization to dominate their minds, and empty them.

The conservative mind has become diseased

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There go you liberal loons co-opting our playbook again. We've said for years that liberalism is a mental disorder.

yeah we had a guy write a book on it too...

Yeah...that guy has credibility.

And Al Franken wrote this:


Doesn't make it so in your mind does it?

I tell you what is a mental disease.

Telling voters you want smaller government but create a dumb*** government run prescription drug plan.
Telling voters you want to get rid of Obamacare but then voting to keep Obamacare.
Telling voters you want to abolish the IRS but then don't try to abolish the IRS.
Telling voters you want term limits but then don't try to pass term limits.
Telling voters you want to balance the budget but then increase spending.
State that your own President's budget doesn't spend enough when it wouldn't even balance the budget for 10 years.
Telling voters you want a flat tax but never try to implement a flat tax.
When you and your daddy are best friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton and you claim to be a Conservative Republican.

Conservatism is healthy. Populism won and that's fine. But trying to give conservatism a black eye because of populism...

Needs a re-write correcting the ideology.

"Progressives" aligning with yet another neo-conservative Iraq War architect.

Quote:It was always like this, working with Mike. No good deed went unreported, and many things that never happened were reported as fact. For all of our chief speechwriter’s finer qualities, the firm adherence to factual narrative is not a strong point.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc..._page=true

(05-26-2017 09:43 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  "Progressives" aligning with yet another neo-conservative Iraq War architect.

Quote:It was always like this, working with Mike. No good deed went unreported, and many things that never happened were reported as fact. For all of our chief speechwriter’s finer qualities, the firm adherence to factual narrative is not a strong point.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc..._page=true

Exactly.

(05-26-2017 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  According to Michael Gerson, a former top aide to President George W. Bush as assistant to the president for policy and strategic planning.

Quote:The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased. The movement has been seized by a kind of discrediting madness, in which conspiracy delusions figure prominently. Institutions and individuals that once served an important ideological role, providing a balance to media bias, are discrediting themselves in crucial ways. With the blessings of a president, they have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion. They have allowed political polarization to reach their hearts, and harden them. They have allowed polarization to dominate their minds, and empty them.

The conservative mind has become diseased

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More appropriate Disclaimer: John Podesta works for the Washington Post now, consider everything from them with a skeptical mind.

(05-26-2017 01:15 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm just astounded by how much the Liberals hate that a New York Democrat won the White House.

Well, just like Bernie he wasn't the "Chosen One".