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NFL OT cut in third
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19444...10-minutes

It will be 10 minutes, no sudden death.

I think we'll see substantially more ties. With as few games as they play in the NFL, that's a shame. If anything, the NBA and MLB need to reduce or eliminate their regular season OT's, as meaningless as they are. They hypothetically could play forever.
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They should just eliminate regular season overtime altogether. Just play the four quarters and move on. The NFL did just fine for 50-plus years without regular season overtime.

And this isn't going to happen because the NFL is too arrogant to borrow this from soccer, but: The way to incentivize teams to play for a win instead of a draw is to award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.
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(05-23-2017 07:00 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  If anything, the NBA and MLB need to reduce or eliminate their regular season OT's, as meaningless as they are. They hypothetically could play forever.

There are a number of things about baseball that hamper its growth with fans, esp kids. Extra innings is nowhere near the top of that list.
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OT in general, I like it.... there are winners and losers in this world.

I dislike shootouts in the NHL or Soccer as it turns a hard fought game into a skills contest.

I did like the NFL's adoption of the scoring for the OT period not to be who got the FG first.... as running out the clock and ball control style of play seemed kind of a "who wins the coin toss" kind of affair in most cases.
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(05-23-2017 07:30 PM)Wedge Wrote:  They should just eliminate regular season overtime altogether. Just play the four quarters and move on. The NFL did just fine for 50-plus years without regular season overtime.

And this isn't going to happen because the NFL is too arrogant to borrow this from soccer, but: The way to incentivize teams to play for a win instead of a draw is to award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.

Ehh... they have this in the NHL though... and...

2 pts for a outright win, 0 points for a outright loss, 2pts to winner and 1pt to loser if it goes beyond regulation.

I have agreed with one (or both?) of out commentators for the Hurricanes that that point allowance is kind of bad in a way.... they argue that since a game is 3 periods a win should be 3pts. If it goes to OT I believe they like the winning team getting one more point... but don't remember if they liked 3-2 or 2-1 with that 3pts allowed for a regulation win.
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(05-23-2017 08:50 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 07:30 PM)Wedge Wrote:  They should just eliminate regular season overtime altogether. Just play the four quarters and move on. The NFL did just fine for 50-plus years without regular season overtime.

And this isn't going to happen because the NFL is too arrogant to borrow this from soccer, but: The way to incentivize teams to play for a win instead of a draw is to award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.

Ehh... they have this in the NHL though... and...

2 pts for a outright win, 0 points for a outright loss, 2pts to winner and 1pt to loser if it goes beyond regulation.

I have agreed with one (or both?) of out commentators for the Hurricanes that that point allowance is kind of bad in a way.... they argue that since a game is 3 periods a win should be 3pts. If it goes to OT I believe they like the winning team getting one more point... but don't remember if they liked 3-2 or 2-1 with that 3pts allowed for a regulation win.

Giving a point for an OT loss the way they do it in the NHL is dumb. It incentivizes playing for the tie in the 3rd period.

If NHL is going to continue to play OT it should be 3 for a regulation win, 2 for an OT win, 1 for an OT loss. But again, why play regular season OT.
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(05-23-2017 08:47 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I dislike shootouts in the NHL or Soccer as it turns a hard fought game into a skills contest.

In soccer, penalty kicks are a last resort, used only in playoffs or tournaments and only after 30 minutes of overtime.

And in soccer, the OT itself has been criticized, because the players are dead tired if they've played the whole 120 minutes by the end of OT, and rarely does a team still have a substitution left to use in OT. One solution for that IMO is to allow each team 2 substitutions in OT. But I doubt that will ever happen.
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(05-23-2017 10:21 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Giving a point for an OT loss the way they do it in the NHL is dumb. It incentivizes playing for the tie in the 3rd period.

If NHL is going to continue to play OT it should be 3 for a regulation win, 2 for an OT win, 1 for an OT loss. But again, why play regular season OT.

I disagree with that first part.... I mean who wouldn't want one more point in the standings? You are playing to get 1 vs. 0 ...and in the OT period you are playing to get 2 vs. 1.
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(05-23-2017 10:27 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 08:47 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I dislike shootouts in the NHL or Soccer as it turns a hard fought game into a skills contest.

In soccer, penalty kicks are a last resort, used only in playoffs or tournaments and only after 30 minutes of overtime.

And in soccer, the OT itself has been criticized, because the players are dead tired if they've played the whole 120 minutes by the end of OT, and rarely does a team still have a substitution left to use in OT. One solution for that IMO is to allow each team 2 substitutions in OT. But I doubt that will ever happen.

Soccer is a joke in general. There should be fewer players on the field or no offsides to allow more scoring. And I don't get the restriction on substitutions, they should be unlimited. Maybe they fear players sneaking on or off or it's based on some archaic cheating practice that's no longer relevant.
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(05-24-2017 06:37 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 10:27 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 08:47 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I dislike shootouts in the NHL or Soccer as it turns a hard fought game into a skills contest.

In soccer, penalty kicks are a last resort, used only in playoffs or tournaments and only after 30 minutes of overtime.

And in soccer, the OT itself has been criticized, because the players are dead tired if they've played the whole 120 minutes by the end of OT, and rarely does a team still have a substitution left to use in OT. One solution for that IMO is to allow each team 2 substitutions in OT. But I doubt that will ever happen.

Soccer is a joke in general. There should be fewer players on the field or no offsides to allow more scoring. And I don't get the restriction on substitutions, they should be unlimited. Maybe they fear players sneaking on or off or it's based on some archaic cheating practice that's no longer relevant.

In other words, you want a completely different sport.

And your sport exists. It's arena soccer. I've played it and I've coached kids playing it. Free substitutions, no offsides. It's not soccer; it's hockey on turf with a soccer ball. It has about as much resemblance to the real sport as throwing trash into a wastebasket has to basketball.
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