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(05-24-2017 09:58 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Troy went from a 4-8 season in 2015 to being ranked in the top 25 last year?

That Troy team also got thumped by Arkansas State 35-3, on their home field.
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(05-24-2017 10:32 AM)asuwon Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:58 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Troy went from a 4-8 season in 2015 to being ranked in the top 25 last year?

That Troy team also got thumped by Arkansas State 35-3, on their home field.

True but he said he's never seen a team in the SBC go from a losing season to a championship-competitive season in just one year. That's not the case.
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(05-23-2017 10:35 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 10:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 09:13 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 04:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 04:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's huge for Troy and USA fans considering neither has any other historic rivals in the Sun Belt

Considering how often the Sun Belt has turned on the AState-Troy game, I suspect at least a few Troy fans consider AState a rivalry. I know until the pause in scheduling it was always one of the games I looked forward to.

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That's true. Even during our 2006-2010 SBC title run, I could always count on StAte to be a pain in the arse. I was slowly developing a disdain for your football team.

That's a compliment I can appreciate. Felt the same about Troy.

That 2009 game had me on pins and needles. What a game.
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(05-24-2017 10:46 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 10:35 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
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(05-23-2017 09:13 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(05-23-2017 04:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Considering how often the Sun Belt has turned on the AState-Troy game, I suspect at least a few Troy fans consider AState a rivalry. I know until the pause in scheduling it was always one of the games I looked forward to.

#Truth

That's true. Even during our 2006-2010 SBC title run, I could always count on StAte to be a pain in the arse. I was slowly developing a disdain for your football team.

That's a compliment I can appreciate. Felt the same about Troy.

That 2009 game had me on pins and needles. What a game.

Now that I look at the history, I'm surprised Troy and StAte don't have a true "rivalry" with each other at this point.

Most of the games have been tight since Troy joined the SBC in 2004. And any Troy fan will tell you that of all the games we least looked forward to from 2006-2010, it was the StAte game. You guys were pesky as hell.

Of the 11 seasons Troy and StAte have met in Sun Belt matchups, 7 of those games have been decided by a touchdown or less.

2004: StAte wins 13-9
2005: StAte wins 9-3
2006: StAte wins 33-26
2009: Troy wins 30-27
2010: Troy wins 35-28
2012: StAte wins 41-34
2013: StAte wins 41-34
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(05-24-2017 09:41 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

That's being a bit presumptuous I've seen many a team go from a losing record one season to a juggernaut the next.

No freaking kidding.
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(05-24-2017 09:52 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  
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(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

That's being a bit presumptuous I've seen many a team go from a losing record one season to a juggernaut the next.

I've followed the SBC since 2013 for obvious reasons (admittedly a shorter time than most fans here) and I've never seen any teams not called Arkansas State rise to the level of competing for a spot like this. It is a bit presumptuous, you're right, but it's based on a lot more than one season with a losing record.
2011 USM went 12-2 2012 they went 0-12
2014 UCF went 9-4 2015 went 0-12

AState doesn't convert 4th and 17 vs Georgia Southern last season, we end up with a losing record.
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(05-24-2017 09:58 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:52 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:41 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

That's being a bit presumptuous I've seen many a team go from a losing record one season to a juggernaut the next.

I've followed the SBC since 2013 for obvious reasons (admittedly a shorter time than most fans here) and I've never seen any teams not called Arkansas State rise to the level of competing for a spot like this. It is a bit presumptuous, you're right, but it's based on a lot more than one season with a losing record.

Troy went from a 4-8 season in 2015 to being ranked in the top 25 last year? Or are you just talking about teams in the west?

AState went 4-8 in 2010 and 10-3 in 2011
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(05-24-2017 10:17 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
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(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

That's being a bit presumptuous I've seen many a team go from a losing record one season to a juggernaut the next.

I've followed the SBC since 2013 for obvious reasons (admittedly a shorter time than most fans here) and I've never seen any teams not called Arkansas State rise to the level of competing for a spot like this. It is a bit presumptuous, you're right, but it's based on a lot more than one season with a losing record.

I understand why you think this but I'm pretty sure we're the last SBC team to beat stAte.

Nope that's Louisiana. Now if Hansen had pitched the ball on the annexation of Puerto Rico before his knee hit the ground, you would be right.
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(05-24-2017 10:03 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

USA 47 @ App 21 (this was a 7-5 App team and a 6-6 USA team)
App 34 @ USA 27 (App scored with 1:16 left to win. This was a 10-2 App team and a 5-7 USA team)

Why does App struggle to beat a trash team?

You guys do always play up to the competition don't you?

Also, we were complete garbage when we played you in the 7-5 year. Lost to Liberty the next week.
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(05-24-2017 12:32 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 10:03 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

USA 47 @ App 21 (this was a 7-5 App team and a 6-6 USA team)
App 34 @ USA 27 (App scored with 1:16 left to win. This was a 10-2 App team and a 5-7 USA team)

Why does App struggle to beat a trash team?

You guys do always play up to the competition don't you?

Also, we were complete garbage when we played you in the 7-5 year. Lost to Liberty the next week.

So you were a trash team but you got better? Other posts in this thread indicate that isn't possible.
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I just love how every football thread turns into a South Alabama sucks at football. This is our first year we will have a full year recruiting while being in FBS. We have wins over every SBC team except for GASO and ARKST. Sorry we haven't had the 10 win season yet but we are still only a toddler in FBS. A program that had no history prior to 2009 and has been able to beat a SEC team a top 25 team, and have two bowl appearances is pretty darn good. We might drive ourselves crazy with the inconsistency but we are still a tough team to beat in the SBC year in and year out.
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(05-24-2017 11:29 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  I just love how every football thread turns into a South Alabama sucks at football. This is our first year we will have a full year recruiting while being in FBS. We have wins over every SBC team except for GASO and ARKST. Sorry we haven't had the 10 win season yet but we are still only a toddler in FBS. A program that had no history prior to 2009 and has been able to beat a SEC team a top 25 team, and have two bowl appearances is pretty darn good. We might drive ourselves crazy with the inconsistency but we are still a tough team to beat in the SBC year in and year out.

Yea if Coastal starts out as well as USA in FBS, I'll be pretty content as long as we keep showing improvement.

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(05-24-2017 11:29 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  I just love how every football thread turns into a South Alabama sucks at football. This is our first year we will have a full year recruiting while being in FBS. We have wins over every SBC team except for GASO and ARKST. Sorry we haven't had the 10 win season yet but we are still only a toddler in FBS. A program that had no history prior to 2009 and has been able to beat a SEC team a top 25 team, and have two bowl appearances is pretty darn good. We might drive ourselves crazy with the inconsistency but we are still a tough team to beat in the SBC year in and year out.

Does this really happen that often? I don't recall this every really happening unless Troy is involved. Also, there was only one person that called USA trash.

FWIW, I think you guys are a really solid program, probably the second best in the West. And of course things can change, but just based on recent history, the West just looks less competitive overall.
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(05-25-2017 07:39 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 11:29 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  I just love how every football thread turns into a South Alabama sucks at football. This is our first year we will have a full year recruiting while being in FBS. We have wins over every SBC team except for GASO and ARKST. Sorry we haven't had the 10 win season yet but we are still only a toddler in FBS. A program that had no history prior to 2009 and has been able to beat a SEC team a top 25 team, and have two bowl appearances is pretty darn good. We might drive ourselves crazy with the inconsistency but we are still a tough team to beat in the SBC year in and year out.

Does this really happen that often? I don't recall this every really happening unless Troy is involved. Also, there was only one person that called USA trash.

FWIW, I think you guys are a really solid program, probably the second best in the West. And of course things can change, but just based on recent history, the West just looks less competitive overall.

Second best?

I'd give them 3rd behind stAte and ULL.
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(05-24-2017 12:32 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 10:03 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:38 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Man the SBC West is trash. It's looking like Ark State vs any one of 3-4 teams from the East every year, at least until ULL recovers, which might be a while.

USA 47 @ App 21 (this was a 7-5 App team and a 6-6 USA team)
App 34 @ USA 27 (App scored with 1:16 left to win. This was a 10-2 App team and a 5-7 USA team)

Why does App struggle to beat a trash team?

You guys do always play up to the competition don't you?

Also, we were complete garbage when we played you in the 7-5 year. Lost to Liberty the next week.
We were not a trash team. We were in a transition between FCS players and extremely young FBS players. The staff started playing those young guys and won 6 in a row to close out the year.

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Sunbelt got it right with electing to play the CCG on campus rather than a neutral site. Just no way any of us have a big enough fan base to pack most neutral site stadiums (unless we're talking about a site that's less than 200 miles from the campus of a team that's playing in that game) so close to bowl season.

Good call on the board/commish's decision.

The east is gonna be tougher overall until ULL gets themselves back in order or another perennial contender steps up to challenge stAte.

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(05-24-2017 11:29 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  I just love how every football thread turns into a South Alabama sucks at football. This is our first year we will have a full year recruiting while being in FBS. We have wins over every SBC team except for GASO and ARKST. Sorry we haven't had the 10 win season yet but we are still only a toddler in FBS. A program that had no history prior to 2009 and has been able to beat a SEC team a top 25 team, and have two bowl appearances is pretty darn good. We might drive ourselves crazy with the inconsistency but we are still a tough team to beat in the SBC year in and year out.
Then avoid falling into the trap of responding to it. It IS possible to have rational discussions on this board that stay on topic if that's how you frame your responses.

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(05-24-2017 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-24-2017 09:59 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We need to get an access spot this year, because soon we're going to have 5 maybe 6 teams that could win the conference in a ten team league that can't avoid playing each other.

10 win seasons once we go to 10 teams will be very difficult to achieve.

I remember reading an article last preseason that had us ranked as the least likely conference to have a team play in a NY6 bowl and their reasoning was that it's getting way too competitive and it's harder for one of us to go undefeated because we all beat up on eachother.

I agree, which is why, after we're done beating up on each other, we kick serious a$$ in the bowl games just to remind everyone we are the SunBeast.
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