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(05-27-2017 03:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(05-27-2017 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  To put everything in one place, this is what I come up with for all the states (except Alaska), in order of the total number of D-I schools in each state.

State..............P5....G5....FCS....BB only...Total

Texas..............5......7.......8..........3.........23
California.........4......3.......4.........12........23
New York.........1......2.......8.........11........22
North Carolina..4......3.......7..........4.........18
Virginia............2.....1.......7..........5.........15
Pennsylvania....2......1.......8..........3.........14
Florida.............3......4......4...........2.........13
Ohio................1......7......2...........3.........13
Illinois.............2......1.......4..........6.........13
South Carolina..2......1......6...........3.........12
Louisiana.........1......4.......5...........1........11
Tennessee........2......2......5...........2.........11
Indiana............3......1......3...........3.........10
Alabama..........2......3.......4..........0..........9
Kentucky.........2.......1.......4..........1..........8
Maryland.........1.......1.......1..........5..........8
New Jersey......1.......0.......2..........5..........8
Mississippi.......2.......1.......4..........0..........7
Georgia...........2.......2......3...........0..........7
Michigan.........2........3......0..........2..........7
Connecticut.....0........1......3..........3..........7
Massachusetts..1.......1......2..........3..........7
Utah...............1........2......2..........1.........6
Arkansas.........1........1......2..........1.........5
Colorado..........1.......2......1..........1..........5
Missouri..........1........0......2..........2.........5
Washington.....2........0......1..........2.........5
Oregon...........2........0......1..........2.........5
Iowa..............2........0.......2.........0..........4
Rhode Island..0.........0......3..........1..........4
Arizona..........2.........0......1..........1..........4
Oklahoma.......2........1.......0.........1..........4
Wisconsin.......1.........0......0.........3..........4
Wash, DC.......0.........0......3.........1..........4
Idaho.............0........2......1..........0.........3
Kansas...........2........0.......0.........1..........3
Nebraska........1........0.......0.........2..........3
Montana.........0........0.......2.........0..........2
North Dakota..0.........0......2.........0..........2
South Dakota. 0........0.......2.........0..........2
New Hampshire.0......0.......2.........0..........2
Delaware.........0.......0.......2.........0..........2
Nevada...........0.......2.......0..........0.........2
New Mexico.....0.......2.......0..........0.........2
West Virginia...1.......1.......0..........0.........2
Maine.............0.......0.......1..........0.........1
Hawaii............0.......1.......0..........0.........1
Wyoming........0........1......0..........0.........1
Minnesota.......1........0......0..........0.........1
Vermont.........0........0......0..........1.........1

Total..............65......65....124.......97......351
.....................P5......G5....FCS......BB......D-I

It's crazy to compare Minnesota (1) and Louisiana (11). One is geographically smaller, has a smaller population, is much poorer, and has less people who attend college and yet it has 11 Division 1 schools while the one who could afford it has only 1.

Using the number of congressional districts in a state as a surrogate for population, I calculated the ratio of D-I football teams per district for states with more than 2 districts.

The highest ratios are:
Mississippi........1.75
Louisiana..........1.67
South Carolina...1.29
Alabama...........1.29

The lowest ratios are:
Minnesota........0.13
Wisconsin........0.13
California.........0.21
New Jersey.......0.25

I'm guessing that says something about the sports cultures in those states.
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i,d imagine people in Minn think hockey is a sport
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Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.
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(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

What? Western doesnt have football and won't with current admin. Also the Seahawks have no partnership with The Evergreen State College. Why would the Hawks drive down to Olympia which is 60 miles south to do spring warmups where the ESC doesnt even have decent facilities for the NAIA level? Nor does Evergreen State College have football they can barely pay their basketball head coach 20k a year. The Seahawks have an state of an art practice facility in Renton on Lake Washington that they use for all of their stuff.

Central Washington have aspirations to grow enrollment and build up the school so they can get to the FCS level. I can see them joining the Big Sky when they do their big push.
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(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.
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(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Other than California needs more football schools, the rest is total fairy tale land stories.
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(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Metro....my goodness. You must be from Denver David. There is no way in hell you should know what Metro is. I thought you lived in Arkansas? Why aren't you pushing for more Arkansas FBS schools as they have only 2? What's with your obsession of tiny schools and commuter schools in Colorado? Next thing you'll be pushing for Adams St to be FBS.....
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(05-29-2017 01:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Other than California needs more football schools, the rest is total fairy tale land stories.

Why does California need more football schools? Or anybody else, for that matter?
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(05-29-2017 09:46 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

What? Western doesnt have football and won't with current admin. Also the Seahawks have no partnership with The Evergreen State College. Why would the Hawks drive down to Olympia which is 60 miles south to do spring warmups where the ESC doesnt even have decent facilities for the NAIA level? Nor does Evergreen State College have football they can barely pay their basketball head coach 20k a year. The Seahawks have an state of an art practice facility in Renton on Lake Washington that they use for all of their stuff.

Central Washington have aspirations to grow enrollment and build up the school so they can get to the FCS level. I can see them joining the Big Sky when they do their big push.


It was a few years ago when the Seahawks needed a place to practice while they do some work on their facilities. Seahawks used the Soccer facilities at Evergreen State since Washington was working on their's at the same time. Pacific Lutheran AND Puget Sound were not adequate enough. So, the Geoducks got the special treatment of having the Seahawks do some practice and all that.
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(05-29-2017 02:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Other than California needs more football schools, the rest is total fairy tale land stories.

Why does California need more football schools? Or anybody else, for that matter?


California is losing kids moving to other states for classes, and a lot of them are star players going to other states because there are not enough schools to take them for scholarships. Getting more schools at the D1 level could help.

Washington does have a growing population. Gonzaga does not have football.

Western Washington still have their football stadium which they could still re-add the sport.

The northwest is a growing places right now. Spokane, Cheney, Bellingham and so forth are growing.
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(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:46 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

What? Western doesnt have football and won't with current admin. Also the Seahawks have no partnership with The Evergreen State College. Why would the Hawks drive down to Olympia which is 60 miles south to do spring warmups where the ESC doesnt even have decent facilities for the NAIA level? Nor does Evergreen State College have football they can barely pay their basketball head coach 20k a year. The Seahawks have an state of an art practice facility in Renton on Lake Washington that they use for all of their stuff.

Central Washington have aspirations to grow enrollment and build up the school so they can get to the FCS level. I can see them joining the Big Sky when they do their big push.


It was a few years ago when the Seahawks needed a place to practice while they do some work on their facilities. Seahawks used the Soccer facilities at Evergreen State since Washington was working on their's at the same time. Pacific Lutheran AND Puget Sound were not adequate enough. So, the Geoducks got the special treatment of having the Seahawks do some practice and all that.

So, you write some fiction as if it's current when it actually might have happened five years ago.
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(05-29-2017 02:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 02:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Other than California needs more football schools, the rest is total fairy tale land stories.

Why does California need more football schools? Or anybody else, for that matter?


California is losing kids moving to other states for classes, and a lot of them are star players going to other states because there are not enough schools to take them for scholarships. Getting more schools at the D1 level could help.

Washington does have a growing population. Gonzaga does not have football.

Western Washington still have their football stadium which they could still re-add the sport.

The northwest is a growing places right now. Spokane, Cheney, Bellingham and so forth are growing.

California kids go to schools in other states in all sports, how would football be any different. A town's population is absolutely irrelevant as to whether a college has football or what division they play in.
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(05-29-2017 03:23 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 02:51 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:46 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

What? Western doesnt have football and won't with current admin. Also the Seahawks have no partnership with The Evergreen State College. Why would the Hawks drive down to Olympia which is 60 miles south to do spring warmups where the ESC doesnt even have decent facilities for the NAIA level? Nor does Evergreen State College have football they can barely pay their basketball head coach 20k a year. The Seahawks have an state of an art practice facility in Renton on Lake Washington that they use for all of their stuff.

Central Washington have aspirations to grow enrollment and build up the school so they can get to the FCS level. I can see them joining the Big Sky when they do their big push.


It was a few years ago when the Seahawks needed a place to practice while they do some work on their facilities. Seahawks used the Soccer facilities at Evergreen State since Washington was working on their's at the same time. Pacific Lutheran AND Puget Sound were not adequate enough. So, the Geoducks got the special treatment of having the Seahawks do some practice and all that.

So, you write some fiction as if it's current when it actually might have happened five years ago.

This is simply not true b/c training camp was held at Eastern Washington University and everything else was held at Northwest University in Kirkland, Wa until the VMAC was built....
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RE: NCAA Division I map
(05-29-2017 02:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 02:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:03 PM)AZcats Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 09:02 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Texas wants to be king of the football state. If you have all of the Lone Star Texas schools plus you have UTT, UTD, UTRGV, Texas A&M-San Antonio and Texas A&M- Central Texas are gunning for D1 or FBS? All three Texas non-football schools have looked into adding football.

That means other schools that are underrepresented needs to bring football up to FBS level or add the sport.

Texas has 12 schools in FBS, but it is still not as much for the whole population. That is why Texas need more P5 schools to the population wise. UTEP, West Texas A&M, UTSA, SMU, Angelo State, Midwestern State, Lamar are a few schools that could accommodate large populated cities that have no P5 schools.

California needs more football schools. They are way too few for a fast growing state. That is why a lot of talk about schools to restart their football programs. You are getting a lot of star players, but a too few California schools to support them in College. They wind up leaving the state, and wind up burning or beating the local schools. If the schools restart football at all levels? It would help keep the instate talent at the local levels.

The state of Washington is so many schools short to be D1 in football. Western Washington and Central Washington would be a great start to help build the state up. Evergreen State is being paid by the Seattle Seahawks to used their facilities for spring warmups. Could the Seahawks be able to sponsor Evergreen State to be a football school and move up eventually to D1?

Minnesota, Nebraska, Vermont, Alaska all need schools to field the sport. Alaska-Fairbanks or Anchorage to start playing in August to avoid the Winter snows.

Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio and some others need more schools at D1 for football. Large populated states need to be covered more often.,

Florida and Colorado seems to have laws or agreement that no other schools should add football. Polk state in Florida mentioned a law that they could not start a football program. If there was such a law? How did UCF and USF be allowed to add football? With the growing states of Colorado and Florida? I think those agreements should be void. That means Metro State in Colorado should be able to add football if they want to. Same with Polk State, UNF, FGCU and others.

Nothing is right in this post.

Other than California needs more football schools, the rest is total fairy tale land stories.

Why does California need more football schools? Or anybody else, for that matter?


California is losing kids moving to other states for classes, and a lot of them are star players going to other states because there are not enough schools to take them for scholarships. Getting more schools at the D1 level could help.

Washington does have a growing population. Gonzaga does not have football.

Western Washington still have their football stadium which they could still re-add the sport.

The northwest is a growing places right now. Spokane, Cheney, Bellingham and so forth are growing.

I believe the technical term for this is "bushwa".
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DavidST, there are no laws in Colorado regarding colleges and universities starting football programs. Nine of the twelve public institutions have football programs. The Roadrunners are forbidden from starting a football program by the university charter. The Lynx don't have an athletic department and, therefore, have no intercollegiate sports. The Mountain Lions don't have football, but that is due to a lack of a budget. If someone steps up with a multi-million dollar donation as the DeRose family did to restart the CSU-Pueblo program, then UCCS will have football.
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